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UNUSUALY COOL
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i hope this doesn't sow division in the forum bu
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Why not dumb and cool.
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Aspie_Muslim_Economist_ posted:

Why not dumb and cool.



close thread

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Kurdt
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have they written any tracts that elaborate their views
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UNUSUALY COOL
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Mike Nelson here.
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He seems like one of the nicer Shin Bet agents online.
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i'm with pigpiss
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Interesting that the advice for international volunteers coming to Donbass is for them to be prepared and organised, whereas pig piss seemed to head out there and was right on the front lines.
I dunno what steps they took in the mean time, but I have heard criticism of ypg that they aren't well organised, while donbass has lots of military veterans and organised workers so maybe that plays a role

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He's very brave but suffers from serious alienation. If you think it's easier to imagine fighting american fascist proxies with a gun in the middle east than in the united states through politics then you've completely bought into the spectacle of late capitalism and the illusion that imperialism as a structure is unstoppable. Kurds aren't so lucky but a white american has many opportunities to directly confront the source of Isis instead of the symptoms. It's also the same alienation that makes one join the "acceptable" leftists in western imperialist discourse, i personally have little faith that the Kurdish socialist movement is actually very socialist or can survive the end of the invasion of Syria. But they read some fat idiot anarchist they're great!
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Poronto
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what shd white americans do to combat isis bhpn
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Here at the rhizzone were all about respecting the troops
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I think he his cool and I read the interview that someone posted here with him and I wish we could be friends. Maybe we could work in a flower shop together, cute stuff like that.

That said, what BHPN said was persuasive and I need to reflect upon my own fascination with the spectacle of late capitalism and belief in the might of imperialism. I will admit that I find myself fantasizing in a Spanish-Civil-War kind of way about joining LeninLover69, but I have the privilege to be able to engage in certain other actions in the heart of the empire, so...

And yeah, the YPG probably don't have much of a future after The Lion Assad wins this thing.
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i mean it seems like a good thing to do but on the other hand he could have stayed in USA and attended bake sales / criticized bake sales as not being correctly Marxist so it seems like he's "bought into the lie" of "imperialism".
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I don't know what irony level we're supporting Assad on so I'm not actually sure if he's on the correct side or not. I guess either way it's fine. I hope he has a good time.
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littlegreenpills posted:

what shd white americans do to combat isis bhpn



stop funding them. this involves writing walden 3.0 through a series of internet posts

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Here's my final and non joking conclusion:

It's a good and brave thing to do, but it's also probably the product of mental disease or terminal failsonism which means people will never do this in meaningful numbers which means we probably are better off marching down main street and demanding CIA stop funding Isis because that also will likely be low impact but at least people would do it.
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damn, what happened to walden-2?
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not a lot of irish-americans actually went to fight with the IRA but still uh... yeah.
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the rhizzone? how many divisions do they have?
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no divisions. it'd be the rhizztwo or the rhizzthree if that was the case. maybe learn to read?
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Mike Nelson here.
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babyhueypnewton posted:

littlegreenpills posted:

what shd white americans do to combat isis bhpn

stop funding them.

Darn it, I keep writing ISIS on my checks!

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babyhueypnewton posted:

i personally have little faith that the Kurdish socialist movement is actually very socialist or can survive the end of the invasion of Syria. But they read some fat idiot anarchist they're great!



The YPG contains practically every significant anti-revisionist Marxist-Leninist party that is currently engaged in revolutionary warfare against the Turkish state. questioning the social credentials of a movement that has the mlkp & tkp/ml as active & central participants is idiotic. Apoism is a necessary quality of the Rojava revolution to the extent that it facilitates the collaboration of disparate communist currents in a united front but it is not the universal character of its participants, in spite of what first world anarchists want you to think

i also fail to see any meaningful distinction in terms of efficacy between mitigating the financing of imperialism at the centre and destroying the vehicles of imperialism in the periphery. both actively harm the political machinations of such and hurt the interests of those who pursue it. attempts to seperate "cause" from "symptom" in any clean sense is meaningless because causes are only ever perceivable through their effects. of course the motivating force here is some impersonal logic operating from the core but you can only actually engage with this by subverting the material process of its realisation. if fighting isis on the ground is merely targeting "symptom" then so is fighting isis by attacking the legal basis for their funding in the developed world

Besides that i agree with Keven

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Lessons posted:

also probably the product of mental disease or terminal failsonism



where do i sign up

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the other thing is that if the number of volunteers to a foreign conflict reaches a certain critical point, it maybe becomes a big western news story in a whole different way than it is right now (where it's conflated with ISIS volunteers as a story about apolitical failson insanity) and then maybe all of a sudden a bunch of groups living on the edge in their relations with the U.S. DoD in the region end up newly designated as terrorists by state. they tend to wait on leftist groups until it serves their purpose, like, the PFLP wasn't designated as such until 1997 and it was considered report-worthy news when YPG stayed off the list and PKK stayed on back in june.

like, the usual modes of enforcement still apply even if DoD is being characteristically coy about coordination with kurdish groups. it's not really going to chap their asses much to put YPG on a list.
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again, you know, most irish americans knew not to go to ireland, but uh hmm hrmrmrmmm hrm.
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chickeon
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I really don't think "Assad" is going to turn on the Kurds or whatever, the government doesn't stand to gain anything by doing so at this point so even if you think they're doin epic self interest whatever bullshit there's not much reason to expect that. The sheer amount of damage that's been done to Syria at this point shouldn't be underestimated

we should of course continue to dismiss the dumb as all hell orientalist narrative focused on Assad as an individual
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i cut off kevens user id because my phine keybaord sucks
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there's no "i" in rhizzone, but a single digit is the difference between Lessons and Keven. wild.
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i desperately want to travel to the future federated socialist republic of greater syria in the near future and build them something in accordance with their most recent 5 year plan.
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Some criticism shouldn't be done in public. Solidarity with PPG and YPG until there is a radical shift in the conditions in Syria.
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Oakland
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I will be sad if he dies. I also like Walden, I think it's glib and funny.
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it's sad when anyone dies. this guy, Hitler, Hitler or even Hitler.
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Don't do it
#37
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sup dm how you've been, mate?
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Hey aerdil. I'm not gonna stick around but I hope everything is going great for you. Ttyl

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going to syria to kill people and maybe die has really helped @pisspiggrandad build his personal brand and i'm suprised we don't see more people using this strategy to gain followers
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i dont care about pig piss granddad