#281
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but youre making it sound like the US has boots on the ground and that cant be!
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Let's look at the video objectively. Are there actual boots on the actual ground? From what I can see, every American is on some sort of vehicle - none on foot. Of course, the prodromal lunatics will delusionally froth about this being a "semantic" distinction, to which I reply, was it semantic at the Apollo moon landing? Precedent matters. Anyway, if America was actually going to declare war on Assad, it would be over in like 2 hours and the citizens of Damascus would joyously shower our arriving liberators with gifts of oil rights.
#283
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i can't make any clear statement about it until someone reminds me of what the thug lessons definition of an invasion is
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apparently the us air force attacked the syrian armys positions in deir ezzor, for some context the saa has been beseiged in deir ezzor exclusively by isis for several years.
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theres no other forces for miles in any direction. it was directly on an saa position on a hilltop that isis then took. cool.
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from Reuters in Sep. 2014:

Obama could order airstrikes on an expanded list of targets within Iraq and has been considering strikes in Syria as well, on condition that moderate rebels there be in a position to hold territory cleared of Islamic State fighters by the strikes.

this has consistently been the policy since the US started bombing Syria in the name of "stopping ISIS." US backing for groups like the YPG and SDF are also cynical attempts to fragment Syria. (on a side note, one can hardly blame the YPG on a personal level since they were/are being threatened with genocide by ISIS. US imperial maneuvering has been adept at forcing people into shitty alliances.)

what remains unclear to me is whether the US will be satisfied with balkanizing Syria without overthrowing Assad's government entirely.

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They apparently killed 100 Syrian soldiers
#288
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lol it wiped out artillery and detection that was allowing them to hit isis positions like 60km away. supremely shady.
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HenryKrinkle posted:

what remains unclear to me is whether the US will be satisfied with balkanizing Syria without overthrowing Assad's government entirely.

thats obviously the lesser evil from their perspective. in fact hitting deir ezzor specifically is important since its the only major Regime outpost in that entire part of syria. balkanization becomes more credible without it.

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stegosaurus posted:

lol it wiped out artillery and detection that was allowing them to hit isis positions like 60km away. supremely shady.



The us accidentally hit surrounded Syrian soldiers 4 times.

I guess this means those Syrians defending their society from these foreign death squads will be overrun and beheaded

#291
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this plus the grotesque us/turkish treachery agasint the pyd effortlessly win them global hitler of the year award for the 69th year in a row.
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I went on SA because I was curious how the D&D people would justify this. Turns out they're just sick fucking human beings. I feel awful that I ever posted there, it's like looking in the mind of how people must have felt lynching young black boys or strafing Vietnamese peasants from a helicopter. These are the worst posts I found which make up the majority of reactions.

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in the words of the great warrior poet Shubel Morgan: Hate Amerikkka To Death
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#295
hi
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majority of the SAA is likely sunni muslim but preferring them to ISIS is Islamophobic, or something.
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babyhueypnewton posted:

I went on SA because I was curious how the D&D people would justify this. Turns out they're just sick fucking human beings. I feel awful that I ever posted there, it's like looking in the mind of how people must have felt lynching young black boys or strafing Vietnamese peasants from a helicopter. These are the worst posts I found which make up the majority of reactions.


wow these are sick sick people

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SA, 2001:



SA, 2016:

i hope the people of syria can defeat al qaeda

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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lol bhpn i came here to post that one reply to me but you went above and beyond
#299
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who knew the ghost of winston churchill had a forums account

#300
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do you guys think assad is good
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babyfinland posted:

do you guys think assad is good


do you think it's necessary to think he's good in order to defend the government of syria from imperialist attack. because that woukd be simple minded as hell

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thats the kinda discourse that forms when your political forum has been moderated by the likes of brown moses, who is explicitly pro-us empire and anti-russian, for four+ years

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the communist parties in syria dont like assad but strategically support the regime while theyre engaged in a civil war against terrorists and resisting the geopolitical goals of the imperialist west. local comrades can of course be wrong, but it's definitely worth taking into account the perspective of leftists who are on the ground "living the issue"

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What's the evidence Assad is bad, again?
I've only ever seen hysterics about butchery since the revolution.

From what i can see Assad is good in that the gov offers secular social housing and education and industry partnership... Which is mainly good in the context that social welfare high points of the 70s and remnants thereof are good in comparison to today's neo liberal bullshit regime.

Like the old reformist and revisionist socialist/social democratic regimes can look like paradise compared to what we have ended up with after all these colour revolutions.

That puts me on team lion Assad I guess
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tpaine posted:

can you guys start a big shrieky passive aggression-laden spat wherein you talk past eachother and go over the same tired talking points to no one's benefit, i haven't got to read one of those in a while


sorry tuppins. i'll leave detective bargearse to his devices. hopefully his followup questions will be "do you guys think putin is good" and "do you guys think erdogan is good"

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imagine if the SAA killed 90 US troops l;ol
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xipe posted:

What's the evidence Assad is bad, again?



the syrian nazis fight for him

http://en.zamanalwsl.net/news/3467.html

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video about the history of the ssnp (i think they made it themselves, it cuts off early though)



highlights:-

founded by bourgeois university students from the american university of beirut in 1932 (6:10)
the party says the syrian nation's lineage stretches back to pre-islamic times (5:50) and even to pre-history (15:35) and there is continuum between the pre-historic epoch, the pre-islamic arab civilisations and today
founder (saade) is referred to as "the chief" (like a tribal chief 8:35, contrast "fuehrer" or "il duce"). when he was alive all legislative and executive authority flowed from him (8:50, 17:25). he "spoke like a prophet" (11:40)
restoring syria to its natural borders (ie revanchism) is the basic principle of the ssnp (35:35). the natural borders include the entirety of mesopotamia and the fertile crescent
the party's other founding principles include militarism, with the army having a governing role (18:55), and corporatism (15:20, 16:44) with syrian social nationalism taking precedence over "other causes" (which i guess means not only liberal individualism but also communism and international socialism). barriers between religions should be eliminated (18:35)
the social nationalist "renaissance" will appeal to past cultural values (16:33)
the party denies saade copied the swastika (19:20) for their emblem although he did give a nationalist speech in germany (27:50)
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tpaine posted:

can you guys start a big shrieky passive aggression-laden spat wherein you talk past eachother and go over the same tired talking points to no one's benefit, i haven't got to read one of those in a while

that was easy

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tpaine posted:

can you guys start a big shrieky passive aggression-laden spat wherein you talk past eachother and go over the same tired talking points to no one's benefit, i haven't got to read one of those in a while

rap is good and god is real

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xipe posted:

What's the evidence Assad is bad, again?
I've only ever seen hysterics about butchery since the revolution.

From what i can see Assad is good in that the gov offers secular social housing and education and industry partnership... Which is mainly good in the context that social welfare high points of the 70s and remnants thereof are good in comparison to today's neo liberal bullshit regime.

Like the old reformist and revisionist socialist/social democratic regimes can look like paradise compared to what we have ended up with after all these colour revolutions.

That puts me on team lion Assad I guess

it's a neoliberal regime

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Petrol posted:

tpaine posted:

can you guys start a big shrieky passive aggression-laden spat wherein you talk past eachother and go over the same tired talking points to no one's benefit, i haven't got to read one of those in a while

sorry tuppins. i'll leave detective bargearse to his devices. hopefully his followup questions will be "do you guys think putin is good" and "do you guys think erdogan is good"

well are they

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glomper_stomper posted:


now thats what i call a punchline

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babyfinland posted:

it's a neoliberal regime


this clearly justifies the destitution, displacement, and murder of several million human beings. *twitter users begin to fratnically argue about whether or not I am being ironic*

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HenryKrinkle posted:

majority of the SAA is likely sunni muslim but preferring them to ISIS is Islamophobic, or something.


Is that really a thing now?

You have any example of people like this I could read?

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babyfinland posted:

Petrol posted:

tpaine posted:

can you guys start a big shrieky passive aggression-laden spat wherein you talk past eachother and go over the same tired talking points to no one's benefit, i haven't got to read one of those in a while

sorry tuppins. i'll leave detective bargearse to his devices. hopefully his followup questions will be "do you guys think putin is good" and "do you guys think erdogan is good"

well are they

Yes. Putin is not only good, Putin has the property of randomly uncursing items in your inventory when invoked