#13921

gyrofry posted:



obviously i wrote the better superman piece but i really feel it should be other people pointing that out instead of me

#13922
i started reading "the red and the black" and its pretty funny so far
#13923
Read the The Indian Ideology by Perry Anderson.
#13924
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/08/04/fbi-agent-apparently-egged-on-texas-terrorist.html
#13925

HenryKrinkle posted:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/08/04/fbi-agent-apparently-egged-on-texas-terrorist.html

Hendricks’s arrest means that every major U.S. attack was linked to FBI investigation before it happened, Seamus Hughes, deputy director of the Program on Extremism at George Washington University, told The Daily Beast.

#13926
Read The Counter-Revolution of Slavery: Politics and Ideology in Antebellum South Carolina by Manisha Sinha. The central argument of the book was that Southern seccessionism was motivated by a broad rejection of democracy as opposed to originating in an alternative form of republicanism. Even a firmly white supremacist forms of popular rule, as represented by, for example, Andrew Jackson, was considered dangerous to the planter class which saw black chattel slavery as but one instance of a general principle of social inequality. Appeals to states rights was motivated by an animus against majority rule itself as a recipe for social leveling and mobocracy. And at least some of the Southern ideologues saw themselves as reversing the legacy of the American Revolution with its "dangerous" assumptions that all men were created equal and endowed with inalienable rights.

Sinha seems to be under the impression that either we must view Southern nationalism as a counter-revolution or as a variation of liberalism. Personally, I don't see why it can't be both. Even the material she gathers suggests how this can be so. The South Carolina Slavery apologists she cites repeatedly appeal to the sanctity of private property, the advantages of Free Trade, the necessity of human bondage as a condition for "progress", and the necessity of black subordination for the guaranteeing of the liberty of white landowners all of which are themes that are not inherently alien to American republicanism, which has always struggled with the realities of settler colonialism and a strong distrust of egalitarianism. This is not to say however, that the difference between more or less democratic forms of that ideology is insignificant.

Sinha also keeps taking as a given that Founding generation of Southerners as a whole subscribed to the notion that slavery was a necessary evil, as assumption which I think is lacking for reasons I elaborate on here: http://suburbanidiocies.tumblr.com/post/104946846422/the-necessary-evil-myth


Overall though it was a solid read.

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#13927
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/08/secret-plans-detention-internment-camps-1980s-deportation-arab-muslim-immigrants-214177
#13928
http://theintercept.com/2016/07/09/barrett-brown-the-fact-of-sisyphus/
#13929

swampman posted:

http://theintercept.com/2016/07/09/barrett-brown-the-fact-of-sisyphus/


i keep forgetting about that column. it's usually pretty good reading, notwithstanding the fact that he was a pretty unsympathetic character at the time he was arrested

#13930
every time i read one of his things i then look at the other stuff on the intercept and think "oh dear" and do the homer backing into the bushes gif
#13931

swampman posted:

http://theintercept.com/2016/07/09/barrett-brown-the-fact-of-sisyphus/



It's remarkable to me how completely identical the Sam Kriss types are to each other in writing style and petty bourgeois affect. I guess there's a market for it.

#13932
Huey... No. There is only one Sam Kriss, and he's wonderful.

jihad, imminent, nails, unstable, forgery, suicide
#13933
don't sign your posts
#13934
i'm harsh kidding "rhizzone style" of course & i hope you get the job gf
#13935
I found a David foster the people Wallace and Gromit about mathematics and I'm loving it

Also the Book of Isaiah


Also Settlers
#13936

RedMaistre posted:

Read the The Indian Ideology by Perry Anderson.



I was looking at reading this myself. What did you think of it?

#13937

babyhueypnewton posted:

swampman posted:

http://theintercept.com/2016/07/09/barrett-brown-the-fact-of-sisyphus/

It's remarkable to me how completely identical the Sam Kriss types are to each other in writing style and petty bourgeois affect. I guess there's a market for it.


It's more palatable to me coming from someone who doesn't claim to be a marxist tbh

#13938
lmfao https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2016/08/30/why-u-s-taxpayers-may-pay-most-of-the-bill-for-apples-14-5-billion-tax-judgment/

Big U.S. corporations have systematically set out to minimize their tax bills through exotic international arrangements. Many of them have accumulated huge stockpiles of money outside the U.S., which they do not want to repatriate under current tax conditions. This has caused a lot of controversy within the U.S. However, the U.S. does not want the E.U. to levy a big tax bill against Apple and other large U.S. firms. They would prefer that U.S. tax authorities get any revenue at some undefined time in the future, when Apple and other big companies repatriate their earnings.

Furthermore, depending on the niceties of the ruling, Apple may be eligible for a U.S. tax credit for any foreign taxes it has to pay. This would mean that Apple would retrospectively be able to claw back a lot of money from the U.S. government and taxpayers.

U.S. authorities are furious, and U.S. senators are threatening retaliation against European countries.

#13939
http://www.adweek.com/news/advertising-branding/werner-herzogs-new-film-future-branded-entertainment-172737
#13940
Despite being branded content, the film clearly has artistic integrity
#13941
John smiths Imperialism in the 21st CEntury, its very good,
#13942
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#13943

tears posted:

John smiths Imperialism in the 21st CEntury, its very good,



it is good. he's pro-cuba and anti-china and anti-ussr though which leads to a weird section condemning Stalin and Mao as competing social-imperialists and cuba as anti-imperialist. it's weird to me because it requires ignoring everything cubans themselves had to say about china and the ussr (which wasn't always positive) and instead idealizing their anti-imperialist solidarity without any kind of deeper analysis of their economy or construction of socialism.

but that part is basically irrelevant to the rest of the book which really breaks down bourgeois economic measurements and how they disguise bourgeois economic thinking and are fundamentally fettered by them. I've never encountered another work which deals with this problem holistically so please read Smith even if you already know how fucked up imperialism is.

#13944
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#13945
I watched that whole let's play series last time that video was posted and it's pretty hilarious. dude has a legit mental breakdown near the end

#13946
noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ASSHOLE
#13947
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#13948

glomper_stomper posted:

finally reading class struggles in the ussr second period

On February 13, 1928, Stalin sent out a circular to all Party organizations summarizing the situation which had led to the emergency measures being adopted and admitting that mistakes had previously been committed by the Party, including the CC. He welcomed the results obtained by the emergency measures, so far as the amount of grain procured was concerned, but denounced "distortions and excesses" that had been committed in the villages and that might "create new difficulties." Stalin gave as examples of such excesses "compulsory subscription to the agricultural loan, organisation of substitutes for the old interception squads, and, lastly, abuse of powers of arrest, unlawful confiscation of grain surpluses, etc." concluding that "a definite stop must be put to all such practices.”

It's pretty tough to write an entire circular that "denounces" illegal methods of grain procurement in a tone of sustained, malevolent sarcasm, but again Stalin pulls it off

#13949

babyhueypnewton posted:

tears posted:

John smiths Imperialism in the 21st CEntury, its very good,

it is good. he's pro-cuba and anti-china and anti-ussr though which leads to a weird section condemning Stalin and Mao as competing social-imperialists and cuba as anti-imperialist. it's weird to me because it requires ignoring everything cubans themselves had to say about china and the ussr (which wasn't always positive) and instead idealizing their anti-imperialist solidarity without any kind of deeper analysis of their economy or construction of socialism.

but that part is basically irrelevant to the rest of the book which really breaks down bourgeois economic measurements and how they disguise bourgeois economic thinking and are fundamentally fettered by them. I've never encountered another work which deals with this problem holistically so please read Smith even if you already know how fucked up imperialism is.



yeah, i just kinda glazed over the obligatory was a bad man section that all marxbooks must have by law. But apart from that the chapter on global labour arbitrage is excellent; and the overtheme of global south low wage prison and free movment of all comodities except labour power coupled with the revealting and refuting of all the tricksy ways that are used to disguse this has helped me feel even worse about my parasitic existence

#13950
I'm reading a book about the Left Communist opposition of 1918 within the Soviets and how it contributed to various debates afterwards and there is a lot of interesting stuff in it to consider. The basic impetus was a widespread movement to force an unlimited revolutionary war against all imperialist states. And it had wide support among party organizations and Left-SRs and such but it was opposed by Lenin and some people around him (like Stalin), with Trotsky uneasy about the idea and taking a sort of absentionist position. There were a series of events and decisive political interventions which changed the tide from a revolutionary war to a separate peace with Germany, which ended up mostly dissipating Left Communists as a faction.

Anyway the more interesting part is that the author traces this to underlying differences in models of imperialism, and how those evolved very quickly during the World War. His basic point appears to be that people like Bukharin (and Trotsky) thought that world-imperialism had to be fought on a world stage and that backsliding into local nationalisms would paralyze the movement. Which is familiar but the arc he suggests is that this informed a wide variety of positions of left oppositionists which had no specific links to eachother otherwise and held different positions on various things. But the fact I found surprising is how much this sounds like Maoism in various ways too, like the debate over peaceful coexistence and the need for a people's war by the third world and such. Anyway I'll have more to say about it eventually once I'm done.
#13951
Silicon Ideology is a good 20 page read about the alt right, Silicon Valley and neo-reactionism's relationship to fascism

https://archive.org/details/the-silicon-ideology
#13952
just flicking back to the stuff Smith wrote about stalin, mao etc - e.g. ref 69 on p214 in his otherwise excellent book:

John Smith posted:

For an excellent introduction to the Chinese Revolution see Cindy Jaquith, "The origins and defeat of 1925-27 Chinese revolution" The Millitant, Dec 10, 2007 - http://www.themilitant.com/2007/7146/714656.html; and Cindy Jaquith "How Chinese working people overthrew capitalism", The Millitant, Dec 24, 2007, http://www.themilitant.com/2007/7148/714854.html"



Which is a real shame for such an otherwise good book because this "excellent introduction" can be summed up as

Under the Stalin misleadership,

(...)

Leon Trotsky and other members of the Left Opposition fought for a revolutionary policy in China

(...)

the Stalinized Communist International

(...)

the class-collaborationist course Stalin had promised the U.S. and European imperialists after the war

(...)

Due to its Stalinist leadership, the workers state was bureaucratically deformed from the beginning



#13953

pogfan1996 posted:

Silicon Ideology is a good 20 page read about the alt right, Silicon Valley and neo-reactionism's relationship to fascism

https://archive.org/details/the-silicon-ideology


This is really excellent, I've tried to summarize all the things that make up the composition of the alt right and how they cohere together before and it's a little overwhelming to do off the cuff. Thank youuuu

#13954
i go to a great books college so i have a lot of school reading. right now i'm reading lucretius' stuff on atomism for my natural sciences class (we just got done with the presocratics) and i'm reading latour's laboratory life for my social sciences class. we just got finished with ruth benedict. i have to write a paper on latour and benedict by next week
#13955
sounds like hell
#13956

shriekingviolet posted:

pogfan1996 posted:

Silicon Ideology is a good 20 page read about the alt right, Silicon Valley and neo-reactionism's relationship to fascism

https://archive.org/details/the-silicon-ideology

This is really excellent, I've tried to summarize all the things that make up the composition of the alt right and how they cohere together before and it's a little overwhelming to do off the cuff. Thank youuuu



sparksbadung also posted somewhere else mlm-mayhems review of that: http://moufawad-paul.blogspot.com/2016/07/review-silicon-ideology.html

worth a read

#13957

c_man posted:

sounds like hell


its hell for me because im not a neet anymore and im learning how unacceptable it is to be a communist still

#13958

pogfan1996 posted:

Silicon Ideology is a good 20 page read about the alt right, Silicon Valley and neo-reactionism's relationship to fascism

https://archive.org/details/the-silicon-ideology



im sure it's old news to a lot of you, but Ishay Landa's "The Apprentice's Sorcerer" is a terrific historical overview on how fascism evolved intellectually out of classical liberal thought. really helped put a lot of things together for me

bit188 posted:

i go to a great books college so i have a lot of school reading. right now i'm reading lucretius' stuff on atomism for my natural sciences class (we just got done with the presocratics) and i'm reading latour's laboratory life for my social sciences class. we just got finished with ruth benedict. i have to write a paper on latour and benedict by next week



Marx did his thesis on Epicurus (and Lucretius by extension)!

#13959
The Presocratics are cool.
#13960
i found a copy of vonneguts Hocus Pocus in one of those free library box things and read it this weekend. it's an easy read and pretty typical vonnegut but maybe more political and cynical than most stuff he writes. it's got a narrator named eugene debs hartke that grew up and went into the army and vietnam, so it's set with a background of our actual history but as it goes on you see the future is set in a hypothetical history where things are really bad and sort of all too realistic, huge populations of unnecessary people in prisons and all kinds of public or private property being sold off to benefit the idle rich and whatever. fairly good book