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Dont Mess With Sucess
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http://twitter.com/CrownMe_Shug/status/752309738201755648

pray also for that journalist we know, who is in baton rouge tonight
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insha'allah discipline doesnt get tear gassed
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Mike Nelson here.
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Cheers to black lives, jeers to police killing people.
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swampman posted:

http://twitter.com/CrownMe_Shug/status/752309738201755648pray also for that journalist we know, who is in baton rouge tonight


No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.

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"Jpg." - Hank Hill
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i saw that same wall of cops shit at occupy boston. it's intensely intimidating and there's fuckall you can do about it except get out of the way
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"Jpg." - Hank Hill
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you're outnumbered and outgunned and unprotected by the law and all you have is some slogans against a bunch of shitheads drawing a paycheck to have no shame. one gunshot away from a mass fascist beatdown, a whim against a night in jail at best
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"Jpg." - Hank Hill
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yeah basically. i guess the best you can hope for is that when they cave your head in it spurs more people to action but this country is full of fat worthless vampires so ehhhhhhhhh
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tpaine posted:

le_nelson_mandela_face posted:


you're outnumbered and outgunned and unprotected by the law and all you have is some slogans against a bunch of shitheads drawing a paycheck to have no shame. one gunshot away from a mass fascist beatdown, a whim against a night in jail at best


it's almost like there's no point to it



The point is certainly not that protesting in this manner is particularly effective or an end goal; any notions of this is quickly dispelled with lived experience. Rather it's a step towards meeting and organizing irl and provides a deeper understanding of police tactics and ability to see beyond media manipulation. It's a necessary step towards growing a mass movement.

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Even an "ineffectual protest" is useful for reminding people that there's even a possibility of dissent, if you just leave it alone that entire horizon of possibility will vanish from the public imagination. They're also one of the better avenues for bringing together and bonding with people who wouldn't have otherwise met, which is going to be necessary at some point if you want your mass movement to be more than 5 greasy trots arguing in a basement.

Plus what Gssh said about learning firsthand about how suppression tactics work is totally important, its also good grounds for developing and practicing logistics, public speaking skills, etc.
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It's also important to remember that for things like black lives matter, protest is an important way to come together as a community to be in solidarity with each other and grieve, and to assert your own narrative about an event contrary to the media and cops. In these matters it is pretty difficult for a protest to be considered ineffectual or a failure.
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you can turn a protest into a highly effective action by leveraging the action to disrupt transportation on highways (while people are going to work) or rail (freight or public, both fit the bill). protests also often tie up police resources in a given area.
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"Jpg." - Hank Hill
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tpaine posted:

the media would just blame you for it, dingus



that's what i said

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Urbandale posted:

you can turn a protest into a highly effective action by leveraging the action to disrupt transportation on highways (while people are going to work) or rail (freight or public, both fit the bill).


cool story: in the early days of occupy edmonton some local indigenous groups offered to do this with the occupiers as a combined action, it was a good plan to escalate up from just sitting around with signs, and the occupy organizers were all "ummmmm errr uhhhh wow that sounds scary... we'll get back to you... eventually... maybe..."

they also offered to help the occupiers set up an effective overwinter camp on a budget, occupy instead opted to spend thousands of dollars on military camp tents and heating stoves.

good defining moment for explaining why that gong show was worthless garbage

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Urbandale posted:

you can turn a protest into a highly effective action by leveraging the action to disrupt transportation on highways (while people are going to work) or rail (freight or public, both fit the bill). protests also often tie up police resources in a given area.



Just curious, what is the goal being served that you would define this as "highly effective action"?

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on friday there was a snap demonstration here in town, the organizers put it together in less than 24 hours and put it right next to a performance artist festival downtown swarming with white people. the speed and placement (plus a good selective communication strategy) meant there was no time for a police response/presence. got to set up sound equipment, have some speakers and hold a vigil with no interference and high visibility.

it also made me think of how lucky we are to not be in the states, because using that kind of strategy further south would have probably have had far nastier consequences.
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sorry tpaine, i may be a fellow traveler on the path of the alcoholic cynic but i still haven't advanced to the "give up, roll over and die" tier.
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shriekingviolet posted:

Urbandale posted:

you can turn a protest into a highly effective action by leveraging the action to disrupt transportation on highways (while people are going to work) or rail (freight or public, both fit the bill).

cool story: in the early days of occupy edmonton some local indigenous groups offered to do this with the occupiers as a combined action, it was a good plan to escalate up from just sitting around with signs, and the occupy organizers were all "ummmmm errr uhhhh wow that sounds scary... we'll get back to you... eventually... maybe..."

they also offered to help the occupiers set up an effective overwinter camp on a budget, occupy instead opted to spend thousands of dollars on military camp tents and heating stoves.

good defining moment for explaining why that gong show was worthless garbage


The tiny joke occupy thing in my city was overwhelmed by white Zeitgeist Movement cultists who objected to the camp flying an aboriginal flag because it would be "divisive". They later unilaterally met with city council to agree on a time to dismantle the camp altogether.

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Gssh posted:

Urbandale posted:

you can turn a protest into a highly effective action by leveraging the action to disrupt transportation on highways (while people are going to work) or rail (freight or public, both fit the bill). protests also often tie up police resources in a given area.

Just curious, what is the goal being served that you would define this as "highly effective action"?



economic disruption, usually. im a fan of targeting heavy traffic interstates and major surface streets. this is most fun during a bus strike, cuz then you can get drivers to 'scab' and assist your action with a screening maneuver

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ah yes, so now the media has taken the strategy of comparing that one iconic photo of the girl standing up to the riot cops to the tiananmen square photo so that well, if you're given lemons u may as well make anti-communist lemonade outta it
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tpaine posted:

ahhh yes
finally someone let me outta mah cage



i like this one

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tpaine posted:

any of you guys catch summer games done quick



all I watch are the sperg highlights

https://clips.twitch.tv/gamesdonequick/FamousBatBORT

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I think it's good when liberals quoting MLK on facebook get beat down by the police. I dunno if some black bloc tactics to provoke it are necessary, particularly when the protest involves black people who are gonna get beat anyway, but I think the Iraq war protests showed us that protests themselves do nothing and have been absorbed by the state into human rights propaganda.
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babyhueypnewton posted:

I think it's good when liberals quoting MLK on facebook get beat down by the police. I dunno if some black bloc tactics to provoke it are necessary, particularly when the protest involves black people who are gonna get beat anyway, but I think the Iraq war protests showed us that protests themselves do nothing and have been absorbed by the state into human rights propaganda.


i was waiting for you to come in with some insane counterproductive shallow garbage, you really worked up the suspense by wanking over other people playing videogames for you first. A+ huey

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