
I was working at US Steel in Gary when the so-called authorities had the audacity to think they could take away Muhammad Ali's title. One of my co-workers, a young white fellow with long hair, said, "He'll always be the champ. He whipped the U.S. government."
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Urbandale posted:We're losing a generation of fighters wise beyond their years. I guess I'm just at that age. Ho hum. Noel Ignatiev had this to say:
I was working at US Steel in Gary when the so-called authorities had the audacity to think they could take away Muhammad Ali's title. One of my co-workers, a young white fellow with long hair, said, "He'll always be the champ. He whipped the U.S. government."
It's mournful as hell, especially since Muhammed Ali was the epitome of awesome, but these kinds of mourning periods do provide a unique opportunity to talk about the last generations struggle
i'm really sad about his death, esp after watching this. the american radical left never had a more charismatic and appealing spokesman-celebrity
it's like nothing that happened since the vietnam war matters or can matter until everybody alive during it is dead
i read this thread that Muhammad Ali died and
i had just watched River of Fundament by matthew barney

anyways The Fight is entertaining because Mailer is a decent writer but it IMAEC
River of Fecalment is pretty engaging. i think it should be rated G. for good. and also so kids can watch it.
karphead posted:i picked up The Fight by norman mailer because
i read this thread that Muhammad Ali died and
i had just watched River of Fundament by matthew barney
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anyways The Fight is entertaining because Mailer is a decent writer but it IMAEC
River of Fecalment is pretty engaging. i think it should be rated G. for good. and also so kids can watch it.
god damn it was terrible. i really loved cremaster so i was excited to see this. it had like a handful of good moments but was mostly very bad.
camera_obscura posted:the amount of salt i've seen from people still mad about him "dodging" the draft is sincerely amazing
it's like nothing that happened since the vietnam war matters or can matter until everybody alive during it is dead
i bet you a lot of the people you're hearing that from weren't alive then either, it has nothing to do with reality, it's just propaganda mythology
when you are drafted you go. it is your duty as a red-blooded american man. you will murder the chinks wherever your president tells you to.
Ali is cited now as a hero for having rescued the U.S. hostages but he and our delegation were treated with scorn and contempt at the time.
Huffington Post writer Andy Campbell succinctly captured the actual attitude towards our trip in his June 4, 2016, post-mortem piece “5 Stories You Didn’t Know About Muhammad Ali”:
“Ali was instantly criticized, taking flak from the likes of then-President George H.W. Bush and The New York Times, both of whom expressed concerns that he was fueling a propaganda machine. Speaking about Ali’s Parkinson’s disease, the Times wrote:
“‘Surely the strangest hostage-release campaign of recent days has been the ‘goodwill’ tour of Muhammad Ali, the former heavyweight boxing champion . . . he has attended meeting after meeting in Baghdad despite his frequent inability to speak clearly.’”
in case anyone wanted more examples of the hideousness of the new york times.
http://www.answercoalition.org/i_was_with_muhammad_ali_on_his_hostage_release_trip_to_iraq_and_the_media_has_it_all_wrong
tears posted:Note for future generations wondering if things were really that bad: on this day, in the year 2016, unrepentant war criminal Bill Clinton eulogized Muhammed Ali at the KFC Yum! Centre
at first i couldn't tell reality from the onion, and i said nothing
then i couldn't tell reality from idiocracy, and i said nothing
drwhat posted:tears posted:
Note for future generations wondering if things were really that bad: on this day, in the year 2016, unrepentant war criminal Bill Clinton eulogized Muhammed Ali at the KFC Yum! Centre
at first i couldn't tell reality from the onion, and i said nothing
then i couldn't tell reality from idiocracy, and i said nothing
same. didn't realize this was real.
wow.