tpaine posted:i already made that joke, keen
Actually you reffed the expresion "heebie-jeebies" while I reffed the landmark punk and new wave club, CBGBs.
bit188 posted:how do you accept the bit about khruschevs revisionism changing the structure of society in the ussr but dont apply the same line of argument to deng?
did u know we also support MUgabe?
snaps of the first 19 chapters are here so far; if theres a better way to organise photos please let me know
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insta_gramsci posted:i'm reading don delillo's jfk novel libra and it's really engrossing. it's not the most productive thing to read, but delillo's treatment of the deep state is pretty compelling and makes it worth the read
interesting. i remember really enjoying the heck out of white noise years ago. i wonder what i'd think of it now. but libra sounds like it's worth adding to my "give it a shot for fun one day" list.
aerdil posted:i'm actually reading white noise atm and think it's kinda terrible
it was kind of a yawn for me too. did not seek out more delillo after
or as me and the lads call it, mewtwo
The art of eating and drinking remains one of the few areas in which the working classes explicitly challenge the legitimate art of living. In the face of the new ethic of sobriety for the sake of slimness, which is most recognized at the highest levels of the hierarchy, peasants and especially industrial workers maintain an ethic of convivial indulgence. A bon vivant is not just someone who enjoys eating and drinking; he is someone capable of entering in the generous and the familiar—that is, both simple and free—relationship that is encouraged and symbolized by eating and drinking together, in a conviviality which sweeps away restraints and reticence.
Distinction p.179
diets and vegetarianism is for the petty-bourgeois
babyhueypnewton posted:I'm reading Bourdieu and it's actually pretty good.
The art of eating and drinking remains one of the few areas in which the working classes explicitly challenge the legitimate art of living. In the face of the new ethic of sobriety for the sake of slimness, which is most recognized at the highest levels of the hierarchy, peasants and especially industrial workers maintain an ethic of convivial indulgence. A bon vivant is not just someone who enjoys eating and drinking; he is someone capable of entering in the generous and the familiar—that is, both simple and free—relationship that is encouraged and symbolized by eating and drinking together, in a conviviality which sweeps away restraints and reticence.
Distinction p.179
diets and vegetarianism is for the petty-bourgeois
ok 2 things
- the paragraph you just quoted is complete wank
- i cant think of any way to define pb that would make that statement true or insightful
obviously this separation is very different in the postmodern era, the difference is not between rich artists and poor workers but different memes shared about Game of Thrones on FBIbook and whether it is a 'significant' work or something to 'turn your brain off' with. but I like that idea because food is one of the few artistic materials which can never be entirely denied to the proletariat. PB is no Marxist but I was pleasantly surprised. if you say I should just read Walter Benjamin instead I probably agree with you.
Petrol posted:when i said pb i mean petit bourgeois, in reference to your remark about diets. anyway the question about the function of art seems to me quite different and potentially interesting, i'm still not sure where food comes into it though. social customs and manners around eating and enjoyment seem to me to have nothing to do with art.
oh haha 
sorry I come from a generation of LF where every post has to have something provocative and easily confusable as either fascist or communist. hard to break the habit I actually like vegetarians and getting fit
aerdil posted:i'm actually reading white noise atm and think it's kinda terrible
i bought the audiobook...now THAT was a ripoff
babyhueypnewton posted:I come from a generation of LF where every post has to have something provocative and easily confusable as either fascist or communist. hard to break the habit
i don't know if we're all exhausted lately or there's been genuine cultural change around here with the fresh blood and the startling release of tuppins' magnum opus but things have been a little tense around here lately. Luckily i have always been more of a boring seriousposter than a wisecracker so i guess the transition to the inevitable post-irony 'zzonE will be relatively smooth for me
Petrol posted:i don't know if we're all exhausted lately or there's been genuine cultural change around here with the fresh blood and the startling release of tuppins' magnum opus but things have been a little tense around here lately. Luckily i have always been more of a boring seriousposter than a wisecracker so i guess the transition to the inevitable post-irony 'zzonE will be relatively smooth for me
idk i think everything's cool. the forum's silver age imo, like monday night raw or the presidency of donald trump.
I never called back to request permission until I was sitting on a mountain of bodies.
much like my posting