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roseweird posted:

i was trying really hard not to look dumb or careless on the internet and it'sall fallen apart now



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ive been reading ep thomopson's "The Poverty of Theory" and its been giving me lots of Thoughts. I'm still at least sorta like althusser, thompson makes a lot of great points and seems like he's definitely his louis' number. as i finish it i might have to write something up to organize my thoughts on it.
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i also read kindred by octavia butler and it was real good
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i looked at rummel's estimates that i mentioned and his "high" estimate for total numbers of soviet citizens killed by the state is 126 million.
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if only communism was as efficient at using other people's money as it is at killing people!! yeesh!
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one hand washes the other aerdil
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getfiscal posted:

i looked at rummel's estimates that i mentioned and his "high" estimate for total numbers of soviet citizens killed by the united states is 126 million.



fixed a typo

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there's two aerdils?
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Mods change aerdils name to Immper and mine to lmmper
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rummel rummel
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i just finished the Communist Hypothesis by Badiou (except i skipped the "answering Zizek" bit at the end cuz I hadn't read the Zizek in question)

now i'm reading Settlers, thanks to read settlers dot org
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Someone recommended to me The Cross and The Lynching Tree by James Cone, and I'm totally psyched to read it, I watched an interview with cone and I was strongly moved by it.


I'm trying to get a better understanding and articulation of the truth I know in my heart, which is that Christianity can be the powerful spiritual movement which frames and supports left wing emancipatory politics. I think Christianity fundamentally speaks to left wing movements and is he ultimate spiritual organizing principal which the disorganized Left is sorely lacking.




I want to read it but when I opened my wallet there was only moths and little notes with "I O U" scrawled on it.idk if j can find it at a library or maybe find it online. My usual connect for these types of things hasn't replied to me today weellllppp
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I disagree in that "Christianity" as a monolithic thing has been made to be pro-capitalist by the inclusion of Paul's garbage, the Gospels other than Mark, and other stuff in the Bible.
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oh i also got a vest-pocket Little Red Book (so tiny!) on ebay but had to submerge it in coffeebeans for a couple days to cover the baked-in smoke odor it had
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the pages are bible-like though which is oddly comforting / surely setting off some psychological bells from when i was an adolescent "loving JESUS is the most punk rock thing of all!"-kinda christian twerp. helping the personality-cult-worship along nicely without even having to try
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roseweird posted:

whats your problem with matthew or luke



Not as sick as Mark

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toot fabian, just a quick reminder that at the rhizzone we do all think that loving jesus is the most punk rock thing you can do.
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I went by the library today and started reading 'guerrilla days in Ireland', an account of a successful insurgency against the British 1919-21 by the commander in rural West cork

I took pics of about 60%of it as there are no copies online, could post it up here if anyone interested?

Would be as a photo album if there is a good service to use
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reading marx on the subway

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xipe posted:

I took pics of about 60%of it as there are no copies online, could post it up here if anyone interested?



I am interested !!!

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xipe posted:

I went by the library today and started reading 'guerrilla days in Ireland', an account of a successful insurgency against the British 1919-21 by the commander in rural West cork

I took pics of about 60%of it as there are no copies online, could post it up here if anyone interested?

Would be as a photo album if there is a good service to use



i'd appreciate the hell out of that !

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hi ive never really posted before but im trying to join the wwp and previously i have thought of myself as mlm. im reading through the szymanski-lotta debates and some of that kind of stuff right now. can someone explain to me what the cpgb-ml and frsos claim to anti-revisionism means? i dont 'get' it because they denounce khrushevite revisionism, but think china and dprk are socialist, im not quite sure i understand their position. thanks
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bit188 posted:

hi ive never really posted before but im trying to join the wwp and previously i have thought of myself as mlm. im reading through the szymanski-lotta debates and some of that kind of stuff right now. can someone explain to me what the cpgb-ml and frsos claim to anti-revisionism means? i dont 'get' it because they denounce khrushevite revisionism, but think china and dprk are socialist, im not quite sure i understand their position. thanks

sometimes contemporary ML groups will call themselves "anti-revisionist" because they reject the turn towards parliamentary politics embraced by most major Western Communist parties.

Like the original CPGB liquidated itself into a pressure group called Democratic Left because they thought the original goal of a mass Communist party was not realistically on the agenda given the collapse of the socialist bloc and their small membership. This was part of the trend for Western Communist Parties to essentially liquidate themselves (such as the Italian Party's conversion to open reformism). The CPGB(ML) is one of the many attempts to rebuild the CPGB, with emphasis in its case on defending the Marxism-Leninism of the British Road to Socialism instead of the "revisionism" of rejecting the dictatorship of the proletariat and such. The FRSO (Fightback) is similar although what they are pointing towards is partially a divided part of themselves (also called FRSO) which supports broad left struggles instead of a vanguard party (which Fightback group sees as revisionist).

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someone also told me that the views within the FRSO on china are fairly diverse and it is somewhat rare to be all-out for china. they suggested that one of the fundamental questions for them is whether revolution is on the agenda, like whether the existing chinese state provides sufficient terrain for a socialist politics, which is why i think their members tentatively support the chinese state, although that doesn't necessarily translate into general support for the existing policies. another fact is that the FRSO has suffered a lot of state repression and internal problems so the membership is quite low.
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the original CPGB was sort of unable to sustain its presence after 1956 though because a very large proportion of the membership quit when they learned about the secret speech and the invasion of hungary. so in that sense it had already fractured in practice with the remaining membership being relatively orthodox, although even then the party continued to move more and more towards reformist practice.
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I still remember when i first discovered the talking heads one night at CPGBs
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bit188 posted:

i dont 'get' it because they denounce khrushevite revisionism, but think china and dprk are socialist, im not quite sure i understand their position. thanks



We reject khruchevite revisionism because ol khruchev murdered stalin and beria and established the dictatorship of the party over the working class instead of the party supporting the dictatorship of the proletariat, and then proceded to take a dump on stalin and beria in his infamous 20th congress speach about which recent evidence has been recently been provided that "Every "Revelation" of Stalin's (and Beria's) Crimes in Nikita Khrushchev's Infamous "Secret Speech" to the 20th Party Congress of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union on February 25, 1956, is Provably False"

As for the DPRK id recomed ufuk_s's posts on the DPRK, also china is socialist

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how do you accept the bit about khruschevs revisionism changing the structure of society in the ussr but dont apply the same line of argument to deng?
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has anyone said "go back to CP-GBS"?