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Speaking of economics: corporations have finally woken up to the profit margins of the margins, and the Dinah has become a lot more attractive to brands. Bacardi, Bud Lite, Smirnoff and Barefoot Wines are all big sponsors this year. Bacardi and Bud have sent teams of scantily clad promo girls (most of whom are straight) who hand out swag, pose for photos and generally act a little gay for pay. While it’s normally irritating to get relentlessly advertised to, in this case it’s a sign of progress. You’re not a real human until you’re recognized by corporate America.



You’re not a real human until you’re recognized by corporate America.

Vice are here this year, for example, shooting a documentary...“What’s your angle?” I ask her. “Well, you know, we’re going to show all the tits and ass,” she says, as her cameraperson zooms in on just that, “and then we’re going to show why it’s actually really meaningful.” She pauses for a moment. “So far though, all we’ve got is the tits and ass.”

Let’s not downplay the tits and ass – they’re meaningful in their own way. As CeeCee, a 26-year-old Dinah newbie, told me, a lot of people don’t think lesbians (that is, real human lesbians, not the male porn fantasies) have any fun. “People think we just sit at home in sensible shoes reading feminist theory to our cats,” she said. Being able to strip off at the Dinah, then, is an empowering experience for a lot of women; a chance to embrace and celebrate their sexuality in a safe space.



People think we just sit at home in sensible shoes reading feminist theory to our cats,” she said. Being able to strip off at the Dinah, then, is an empowering experience for a lot of women

Will the next generation of gay women feel the same need for an extended women’s party? Mariah Hanson, founder of the Dinah, certainly seems to think so. “There’ll always be need for gay people to come together and congregate,” she said. “Our culture is unique … we’re not part of straight culture. The Dinah is and always has been five days of incredibly magical celebration of our lives. If the UN would pay attention to what’s going on at the Dinah it could change the world in a big way. People put aside their differences and go home feeling changed.”



If the UN would pay attention to what’s going on at the Dinah it could change the world in a big way.

rest of the article is just lesbian erotica for male readers disguised as progressiveness

http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/apr/07/dinah-lesbian-festival-women-palm-springs

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babyhueypnewton posted:

rest of the article is just lesbian erotica for male readers disguised as progressiveness



he said, unironically

#3
Let’s not downplay the tits and ass – they’re meaningful in their own way.
#4
corporations and lesbians oh no what a tragedy
#5
as someone who lived in the coachella valley palm springs is safely nukeable
#6
lesbianism was invented by the CIA to distract from the primacy of class struggle, furthermore
#7
BHPN posts about women are always uh... Something
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Congrats to the tits and asses and here's to many more
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babyhueypnewton posted:

You’re not a real human until you’re recognized by corporate America.

#10
the worst part of that is wearing shoes inside your house. that's fucked up.
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getfiscal posted:

the worst part of that is wearing shoes inside your house. that's fucked up.

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While it’s normally irritating to get relentlessly advertised to, in this case it’s a sign of progress. While it's normally weird to get stalked by people you don't know, in this case it's a sign of gender equality. While it's normally unhealthy to view lifestyle propaganda that undermines self worth to inspire consumption, in this case it's a sign of women's voices being heard. While it's normally dehumanizing to spend your waking hours in wage slavery, in this case it's a sign of liberation. While it's normally awful to have to go massively into debt to be perceived as employable or even competent, in this case it's a sign of a changing discourse.
#13
If you dont like topic Use this thread to post actual feminism

(As told by a man in this case, lol)

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I liked this article particularly because the quote "you're not a real human until you're recognized by corporate america" is possibly the most honest summary of identity politics I've ever seen.
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i checked the article and those lesbians were mostly attractive which leads me to believe this is a CIA psyop
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jean kilbourne

smart ppl post the readings
#17
I just went over and googled feminism. I am floored. You know there's a whole like, field of study about this? Who are these people?
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Dude... Did you not know about feminism? For real? That's like... A pretty important social movement and exactly the kind of thing a poster here would be aware of and have opinions about... Are you just messing or? Huh. Blows my mind.
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The world is an inexplicable and unexpectable place Keven, and you can quote me on that to the fat tourists who spent half your set arguing that the 2 drink minimum is for the whole table.Sorry for doxing you like that but its the internet where people dont give a DAMN about each outher.
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God what I wouldn't give to be a club comic. What you suggest is a distant dream to me.
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The idea of crafting a brand, which is a uniquely capitalist idea, resonates really well with other terrible ideas that attempt to distinguish a person's individuality, such as exclusionary identity politics, and intersectionalism.

You can take any one of these three ideas and they eventually lead to one or the other, however all three ultimately divide and polarize the parties that participate in them.

If I were the CIA i would definitely encourage this sort of activity and behavior.
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babyhueypnewton posted:

I liked this article particularly because the quote "you're not a real human until you're recognized by corporate america" is possibly the most honest summary of identity politics I've ever seen.


seems like that quote was stated with some amount of irony. it's the corporations that latch onto lgbtqt things for PR ploys, not the lgbtqt that are finally seeing "progress" (when they're being killed and discriminated against all over.) but that's not what you people have in mind when you say "identity politics", you have in mind something quite a bit more grassroots: groups of people that seem to have some resemblance that do collective politics that is a distraction of some sort, to you. however these two groups that you are conflating (lesbians and corporations), seem quite at odds historically, and only intersect at periods of celebratory hogwash. I mean, I have to make this clear because we can never have a lgbtqia thread without someone mentioning that fringe collectives are somehow illegitimate strugglers

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tsinava posted:

If I were the CIA i would definitely encourage this sort of activity and behavior.


#24
"Gloria Steinem was paid by the CIA but that's just the price she had to pay to broadcast her great ideas to the wider world! you'd do the same to be a staaaaahhh"