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what should i think about boko haram. i need sources, articles, contextualisations, stat, c'mon!!! why did they step up they game at the same time as a mass movement of nigerians against neoliberal economics that united christians and muslims huh. whose funding them! i dont think they have links with al qaeda despite what their guy said in that interview thing. mostly because aq doesnt exist. so wheres the money. what should i think
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Why are you so suspicious, they probably just really love god
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Ironicwarcriminal posted:
Why are you so suspicious, they probably just really love god

People who love God dont disobey his command to respect people "of the book" (the bible, both old and new testament)

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Unapologetic Opponent of Rape
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cia false flag operation to prevent the rise of a populist, anti-IMF regime in Nigeria.
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http://muslimmatters.org/2012/01/18/religious-violence-in-nigeria-fueled-by-poverty-and-ethnicity/
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iono im always wary of attributing this kind of warfare to tribal tensions, they usually encode some kind of class disparity...
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deadken posted:
iono im always wary of attributing this kind of warfare to tribal tensions, they usually encode some kind of class disparity...



says who

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my guess is that this is all somehow britain's fault
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babyfinland posted:

deadken posted:
iono im always wary of attributing this kind of warfare to tribal tensions, they usually encode some kind of class disparity...

says who



karl big pimp daddy

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deadken posted:

babyfinland posted:

deadken posted:
iono im always wary of attributing this kind of warfare to tribal tensions, they usually encode some kind of class disparity...

says who

karl big pimp daddy



clearly an authority on 21st C nigeria

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when you look at similar situations in rwanda, n ireland, kenya, etc, it really is generally a case of class formation along ethnic lines. ima haffi do some more research but i bet £10 i can come up w/ some facetious class analysis of this thing
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i dont know how both of you can read that article and say class has nothing to do with it, in the article
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where. the fact that fuel protesters attacked a mosque is interesting tho and might yield an interesting line of enquiry. lol people are dying and im interested in lines of enquiry. im a monster
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Crow posted:
i dont know how both of you can read that article and say class has nothing to do with it, in the article



i didnt say anything like that, just objecting to deadken talking out of his ass like a brit is wont to do

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whiter shade of pale is a good song
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getfiscal posted:
whiter shade of pale is a good song

found this thread searching for jokes I was about to make

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@ end of this article:

More alarming in this context is the orchestration of a major new wave of terror killings and bombings by the mysterious and suspiciously well-armed Boko Haram. This we will look at next in the context of Nigeria’s recent transformation into a major narcotics hub.



http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=28900

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This happened and then everyone pretended it didn't so Boko Haram looked like it came out of evil jihadistic thin air.

Go to 1:47 for Nazi-style executions of Boko Haram suspects.

At around 2:27 two civilians on crutches are forced to lie down and are executed by the Nigerian security forces.

3:27 Boko Haram's leader is lynched and killed while handcuffed. All on tape.

But they don't like the West so um... 9/11.

To understand what Nigeria is doing you have to understand the importance of leadership and how one guy is causing every problem and not horribly repressive governments that treat and murder people like insects.

For example, the siege on the Red Mosque in Pakistan and the killing of their leader in 2007 brought peace to that region similar to Nigeria's peace today.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Lal_Masjid

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdul_Rashid_Ghazi

Also see Zarqawi's death. He was killed on June 7, 2006.

As we can see his death was incredibly important and brought amazing results since his death was vital to peace in Iraq:

http://www.iraqbodycount.org/analysis/numbers/2007/

The most violent 12-month period in Iraq’s recent history extended from July 2006 to June 2007, with 29,625 to 31,852 civilian deaths recorded.



During the UN intervention in Somalia the U.S. tried to bring peace by killing the high value target Mohamed Farrah Aidid. Unfortunately the U.S. failed, but after he died in 1996 peace soon followed in Somalia.

All the United States, Nigeria, Pakistan and Somalia had to do was kill the boss - sort of like killing Hitler during WWII - and peace soon followed. Osama Bin Laden was another example of this but there are countless others. After Ho Chi Minh died in 1969 it was pretty much over for the North Vietnamese as well.



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It's worth remembering that Nigeria has had Sudan style Muslim north vs Christian/Animist south civil war in the past. The Biafra war was the first time the west saw starving big belly african babies. Those were christian members of the igbo tribe who seceded after the (at that time) muslim controlled army and central government were fucking them. But this is of course was just cultural gauze over oil problems.

I think it's fair to say that there's probably saudi and gulf money helping boko haraam, with direction from the u.s. All to hurt china and to keep their foothold in the country. Basically when bad guy muslims spring up you know there's american money somewhere
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boko haram means 'western education is forbidden' which owns
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EmanuelaOrlandi posted:

boko haram means 'western education is forbidden' which owns



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lmao MEMRI is so pathetic
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"All of this seems well beyond the capabilities of a small cult known mainly for its views on secular education. Boko Haram in Hausa, the main language of the north, means “Western learning is forbidden”. The frequency and sophistication of the violence has led many, especially in America, to suggest that the group is getting support from international terrorist networks. Algeria’s branch of al-Qaeda and, more improbably, Somalia’s Shabab have been mentioned. Nigeria’s government, keen to win lucrative grants as a front-line ally in the West’s “global war on terror”, has encouraged such explanations. Religious and political leaders in the mainly Muslim north, however, see things differently. To them, the internationally connected, ferociously active Islamist fringe group described by officials is largely an imaginary bogeyman. They say there are some genuine religious fanatics in the north but suggest Boko Haram has been co-opted into a murky mix of criminal opportunists and disgruntled political operators. “It’s something like a Bermuda triangle.” says Kashim Shettima, the governor of Borno State, where the group originates. “Boko Haram has become a franchise that anyone can buy into.” Goodluck Jonathan, Nigeria’s president, seems in two minds. He has claimed that Boko Haram and its sympathisers have infiltrated all branches of the government, including the army and police. “Some continue to dip their hands and eat with you, and you won’t even know the person who will point a gun at you or plant a bomb behind your house,” he told a church congregation in Abuja.

The president, a Christian who is unpopular in the Muslim north, is following the advice of his top security men baying for blood. He has put much of the north under a state of emergency. He appears ready to give the armed forces and police a free hand to run large-scale operations. And he is set to spend an astonishing 20% of the federal budget on security this year. Some fear that such measures may make matters worse. Already deployed in parts of the north, troops are seen by locals as occupiers. Their high-handed, sometimes violent behaviour stokes rebellious feelings. A backlash is already happening."



http://www.economist.com/node/21542764

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I think I might do a thread about Yoruban religion. It owns.
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aerdil posted:
lmao MEMRI is so pathetic

once i lived in a frat house and my landlord was a hawk zionist whose day job was at MEMRI. well that's my MEMRI story

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Mike Nelson here.
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"boko haram" means no western learning, eh?

let's see how that works out for ya. tribal wars as far as the eye can see. meanwhile american cities have skyscrapers. i've made my choice. liberty.
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boku wa haram desu
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its only a matter of scale
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Nippon
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no western learning *craps into a bucket*
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The secret is that islam will take over all of africa soon when it becomes fully desertified. soon all of usa will be tatooine style desert world and islam will reign supreme.
You can't fight them with guns, you have to use sustainable agriculture and that synthetic soil that stops water loss. You also have to stop the greenhouse effect. Islam is unstoppable
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"no western learning"
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