#241
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i'm just trying to run the Rhizmultfilm youtube channel, animate tweets, make stamps, design avatars and enrich the Emoticon experience with Intelligent Material.
#242
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Maybe we could have a subforum that isn't publicly searchable or viewable? Not for discussing anything criminal or anything, merely so we could plan politically subversive things without having to worry about strangers getting the wrong impression of our community. Or just invite me to the secret PDF forum.
#243
mt.real
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Red_Canadian posted:

Maybe we could have a subforum that isn't publicly searchable or viewable? Not for discussing anything criminal or anything, merely so we could plan politically subversive things without having to worry about strangers getting the wrong impression of our community. Or just invite me to the secret PDF forum.


that's the right impression though? anyway this is a bad place to put anything that you wouldn't want the rcmp/csis/nsa/fbi/mi5/your mom to read.

#244
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Certainly, and I have no fear of them reading anything I post, since I have no intention of breaking the law. But for example, my idea to threaten the democratic leadership with votes for bernie or trump shouldn't be publicly searchable. I mean, laissez faire got shut down by someone reporting a joke to the secret service, merely because they didn't understand the humour. Bad example since that joke misconstrued could be regarded criminal, but perhaps you get what I mean.
#245
mt.real
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Red_Canadian posted:

Certainly, and I have no fear of them reading anything I post, since I have no intention of breaking the law. But for example, my idea to threaten the democratic leadership with votes for bernie or trump shouldn't be publicly searchable. I mean, laissez faire got shut down by someone reporting a joke to the secret service, merely because they didn't understand the humour. Bad example since that joke misconstrued could be regarded criminal, but perhaps you get what I mean.


it's a little late for that. we've been posting criminal jokes for years already.

like that one! hahaha!!!

#246
mt.real
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in seriousness, a non public forum would just hide the good stuff from lurkers and give you a 100% false sense of security. not only can you not trust the other users, the website has atrocious, six-years-out-of-date-and-bad-even-then security, and the database is on a poorly secured server that hosts dozens of other websites for a cheap American webhost company whose staff have no qualms about sifting through our data when the authorities ask, and all traffic flows unencrypted between you and the server over monitored core US switches. subpoenas show up occasionally already. there is no security here and whatever you want to post that you don't want misconstrued is probably a bad idea to post, period.

things may change someday but that's the situation right now.
#247
Kurdt
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thank you drluke
#248
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drwhat posted:

subpoenas show up occasionally already

wut

#249
Dont Mess With Sucess
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Red_Canadian posted:

Maybe we could have a subforum that isn't publicly searchable or viewable? Not for discussing anything criminal or anything, merely so we could plan politically subversive things without having to worry about strangers getting the wrong impression of our community. Or just invite me to the secret PDF forum.

Any act that you can call politically subversive, the usa can call criminal

#250
political car tune
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MarxUltor posted:

drwhat posted:

subpoenas show up occasionally already

wut


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#251
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Lets think about this. The website is a crumbling piece of shit kind of like The Left and the suggestion is to create an even more exclusive invite only forum, where comrades are all comrades only if you get an invite? Just because it's inconceivable to reach out to the Shallow Web and organize using a more alkaline method than trolling sarcasm? I think this forum should be addressing itself from within, looking to rid itself of pride and therefore Shame, because the two go always hand-in-hand. If the goal is to fix a lackluster design theme then let me condemn the logic that any amount of Color Palette adjustments will fix the underlying root that this whole thing is A Joke and will Remain A Joke until somebody figures out a way to flip the switch. Pardon the metaphors but NYC is going through the same shit and i believe the whole of the problem is deeply rooted in what a discourse such as this one has the Potential of talking about but instead is still Stalin-trolling because they're afraid of sunlight.

Without going further down that hole i think it's fair to assume the trajectory of a redesign of a community that has this much Unfulfilled Potential is this:

A. Take itself seriously
B. In doing so the individuals have to take their own lives seriously, which is so completely irrelevant on the internet but is actually a Pillar in making a community work. Every individual is a Pillar. You can have a pristine Dedicated 1000GHz server running the latest meme-splicing DjangoBB modules but what good is it if the users are lurking in fear and the discussion is dominated by shadows with smirks and an apathetic stance on everything? Might as wel color it pink and call it a day
C. This isn't a Trajectory as much as it is a "rhizome." Don't get me wrong here . I know it's lame to take some things to a literal extreme but the idea is an incredibly powerful and attractive one to me. If these decentralized units can hold a bond to the floor then we can put a Roof on it and call it a Forum. Until then it's Slop and u all know it. What that entails is actually sitting down and writing opinion pieces and discussions. That's the meat on the bone. But the meat makes the bone move...
D. Once we have something we can share, we can begin to scope out for opportunities to immerse those objective analyses into a greater audience. If that's not the agenda, it's not a marxist agenda. If there's no inherent plan to overcome the colonial mindsets of the media industries, then this is a fail. Which is to say we're all too weak to Bust it. Which is the root of our shame in relation to the machine and our pride in relation to each other.

e. Art is War and if there is ever enough kinetic effort, the only logical step would be to externalize our effort using as many different mediums as possible. I for one think minimally animated videos would be a perfect way to explain Marx to those who have never seen an actual shovel in their 20 something years. This is such a perfect time to do it because the socialist aesthetic is being appropriated everywhere from Ikea to fucking Kanye, and the unnerving irony is pretty obvious. Probably even to those designers behind their desks being ordered to do it.

"f" As for the Rhizzone, honestly the whole experience is really acidic and a jaw-grinding outlook on past ideologies that is easily dismissible. I mean who but a select goon few even get this flavor of comedy? I was never an active goon and i barely read any of it, but I somehow fell into this and found myself privy to the injustice that all here seem to understand. You could use me as an example but i honestly am just an artist and believe in a very different god than most north americans. If there's any way to Get Serious it would be to accept our differences and coexist in an alkaline way like tiny little turmeric root bulbs trying to grow a Big Mother
#252
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parabolart posted:

but what good is it if the users are lurking in fear and the discussion is dominated by shadows with smirks and an apathetic stance on everything? Might as wel color it pink and call it a day


aww, son of a bitch

#253
bb bourgeoisie
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I just want to post and read about bitter disappointments with our political system, not whatever that long post above me that I didn't read says.
#254
bb bourgeoisie
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now that i've read several sentences of it i support transforming the rhizzone into an art object
#255
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so notwithstanding the part where i'm a liberal and anything i say that's at all in favor of apathy or inaction should be looked upon by actual marxists with extreme suspicion, I disagree with most of your post parabolart. the drive for good longform content has come before and will come again, but it's never really come to fruition. to frame a failure to achieve that as rendering the forum futile is to guarantee futility, because this place will never be "Jacobin: Ironic Stalinist Edition," but rather a venue to laugh at the horror because what the fuck else are we gonna do. if you're a hardworking and productive marxist, this is a cool place to hang out, to chill and do whatever and totally relax, but it is a shitty workshop.

all that said

e. Art is War and if there is ever enough kinetic effort, the only logical step would be to externalize our effort using as many different mediums as possible. I for one think minimally animated videos would be a perfect way to explain Marx to those who have never seen an actual shovel in their 20 something years. This is such a perfect time to do it because the socialist aesthetic is being appropriated everywhere from Ikea to fucking Kanye, and the unnerving irony is pretty obvious. Probably even to those designers behind their desks being ordered to do it.

i couldn't agree more with this. this is the thing this place can offer while staying true to itself and being realistic about what itself is.

#256
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Thank you drwhat, that was a perfect response to my question. I won't bring it up again.
#257
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I think its important to keep in mind that different posters use this space for a variety of reasons. For some it is an attempt to maintain some vestige of sanity by being able to socialize with people who share roughly the same vanishingly rare and persecuted politics, others for the simple joy of posting, or to learn and perform scholarship, or to share and workshop organizing strategies. Or a space to vent and destress about the struggles and disappointments of real world action.

For most of us its a mix of the above with priorities varying by poster. So the ways people are going to be contributing to the community will vary, and I think that's ok. I still think its good to encourage effort posting and getting out to Do Things instead of just smirking online, and for us to treat each other better when the situation calls for it, but I'm not sure this is the community to demand or expect participation in a disciplined unified campaign, or a greater officialized presence as some kind of organization. Which is not to say that no one should try it, just that many of us already have other political work that takes up our time.
#258
Marxsplainer
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the rhizzone is, was, and forever shall be a place for friends
#259
Kurdt
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I miss a lot of the posters who have moved on but otherwise I like this place as it is except the forum color scheme is too bright to post at night and I want more smilies
#260
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#261
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Red_Canadian posted:

But for example, my idea to threaten the democratic leadership with votes for bernie or trump shouldn't be publicly searchable.



the cops arent going to care about an idea indistinguishable from the political opinions of 90% of people on reddit

#262
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Haha yeah I didn't really care about the cops, it was more the fact that people could look it up and see that it was from a radical Canadian that has no skin in the game, and also favours a much more radical solution than Bernie's. But it's a moot point, because like you say, it's already a popular viewpoint.
#263
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a lot of people may not want to take it easy lady