#201
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the NDP relies heavily on inexperienced young people who want to be leftists but don't know how and are scared of "radicals," to generate enthusiasm and to keep their party apparatus from stagnating (note that "maintain the status quo of being the left alternative party that never gets elected" isn't considered stagnation.)

eventually these young people enter their late twenties/early thirties as educated professionals, are given increasing power within the party, and become resigned to the problems of the NDP being unsolvable, not that bad really, they can work with this, in fact, were they ever really problems in the first place? and another generation of NDP policy makers are born.

I agree with getfiscal that the leadership isn't really the problem, the NDP is a bourgeois interest party that agitates for the specific interests of people who call themselves leftists but are afraid to give up the privileged position given to them by capitalist bourgeois democracy. the NDP's internal culture and bland parliamentary strategies are 100% working as intended, sublimating dissent into complicity with the dominant power structure, and have no reason to change
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#203
Mike Nelson here.
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I am bourgeois and won't sacrifice but if workers go and build socialism then I could see helping them. Like if they need me - I'm there.
#204
mt.real
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shriekingviolet posted:

I agree with getfiscal that the leadership isn't really the problem, the NDP is a bourgeois interest party that agitates for the specific interests of people who call themselves leftists but are afraid to give up the privileged position given to them by capitalist bourgeois democracy. the NDP's internal culture and bland parliamentary strategies are 100% working as intended, sublimating dissent into complicity with the dominant power structure, and have no reason to change


you are right. i too agree with getfiscal. amen.

but i can identify the leadership so i like to pin problems on them when i'm feeling bitchy about everything.

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Really it kind of encourages Blanquism in me. I mean, there's so many people that are more or less apathetic, suffer social alienation and all that, but nobody wants to risk what little they have. It's the bystander effect writ large. Everyone sees the kid drowning, but it's not their kid, somebody will do something. And nothing gets done. The Tupamaros had it right, action unites us, words divide us.
Really, that's the perfect example of focoism. Although there wasn't a mass uprising against government repression, the small groups acting as a vanguard, although repressed, have led to leftism becoming fashionable in Bolivia. Che was right! It just took a slightly longer time scale.
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Occupied Aztlan
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i feel bad for che cuz if he would have taken a second to realize that urban support structures are incredibly important, and he does in his writings on focoism, then maybe he should put some effort into building them up before him and his band go and fuck off to the jungle.
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Marxsplainer
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tpaine posted:

i too agree with getfiscal.


#208
Mike Nelson here.
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i (like almost everyone else) got an invitation to a "stakeholder" dinner with the ontario leader which cost $650 for a couple for the slightly better ones. the "progress gala" put on by a front organization costs $75 a ticket if you are "unwaged".
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Marxsplainer
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something something steak holder dinner, tom is fat
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getfiscal posted:

i (like almost everyone else) got an invitation to a "stakeholder" dinner with the ontario leader which cost $650 for a couple for the slightly better ones. the "progress gala" put on by a front organization costs $75 a ticket if you are "unwaged".

im underwealthed.