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https://www.jacobinmag.com/2015/08/tsipras-syriza-debt-greece-kke/

hey hey my dawgs and dudes come in, come on in man. Listen lets build man. We're progressive right round the table here Holmes and homeboys, true to the core and ready to score!!!! sorry for jumping right in (turning to the CIA agents around the table) and for interrupting our meeting, but lets dig right in

lemme bring it right back and telescope out:: the kke got nothin, nada, ding ding ding, outta that ring hahaaaaaaa!!!!. They ain't in the New Left, the real left, the left that ain't back in that class warfare quagmire. That's like the Arghanistan of struggles!!!!!!!!!!! Fuck you class struggle!!!!! I spit on class struggle!

We grew up on Mickey Mouse. We grew up on street sharks, Pokemon, digimon - the digital monsters. We know that layoffs are (sallow bag headed mobute voice) necessary for productivity - maniac up the back of the stage: FUCK YOU HACK CUNT sssssshhhhh ssssshhh. Planned economy???? What about my googletrons??!?? What about my driverless car??? Which I will be able to afford, as a millennial??????

remember your real friends everyone!!! The bourgeoisie!!! At jacobin!!!
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Mike Nelson here.
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O_o
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This KKE Statement Will Haunt You for Years to Come

Uh, Seriously KKE? KKE Freaks Us Out Big Time

Why We're Sick of the KKE's S*** Already!

18 Seriously, Insanely Messed-UP KKE Policies



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Dont Mess With Sucess
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Jacobin is one of my favorite anti-austerity publications
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hi
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And neither did it recognize the quasi-revolutionary nature of the circumstances that would be encountered and of the measures that would have to be implemented in such a scenario.

This is odd, because some of them are echoed in KKE manifestos — complete state control of the private banks and the central bank, imposition of capital controls and price controls, reversal of privatizations, and higher taxes on the wealthiest 10 percent and on church property.

maybe because it recognizes those measures wouldn't be nearly enough to mitigate the negative effects a Grexit would have on a majority of the Greek population? central planning plus Grexit is probably the best option at this point.

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as a palate cleanser, here is a statement from the kke itself published on the monthly review blog and it sounds far more coherent than any of the syriza apologia i've read on the jacobin so far:

http://mrzine.monthlyreview.org/2015/kke020815.html

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i discovered one weird trick during the research for my presentation which was to read kke statements as opposed to ascribing motives to them.
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mrzine fucking owns
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stegosaurus posted:

i discovered one weird trick during the research for my presentation which was to read kke statements as opposed to ascribing motives to them.


the best way to understand the kke is to lie about them to ppl who don't know any better

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orchestra_hit posted:

stegosaurus posted:

i discovered one weird trick during the research for my presentation which was to read kke statements as opposed to ascribing motives to them.

the best way to understand the kke is to lie about them to ppl who don't know any better

wow, rude of you to attack my presentation like this.

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thats not what i meant at all!
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how dare you orchestra_hit
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who the fuck do you think you are
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Dont Mess With Sucess
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It will make it possible to develop, equally and commensurably, sectors that are currently restricted because of commitments to the EU (e.g. shipbuilding, sugar, meat production).

Boldface type added by me, swampman, to emphasize key words I'd like a reader of this post to notice. Fuckin humans

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Mike Nelson here.
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Kapa Research Poll (August 29th):

Pro-austerity parties - 77.6%
Fascists - 7.8%
Communists - 5.8%
Popular Unity - 5.5%

good job left.
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orchestra_hit posted:

thats not what i meant at all!

no i was kidding.

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Mike Nelson here.
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wow this kke strategy document is amazing (cover falls off and reveals book is actually Waiting for Godot)
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getfiscal posted:

Kapa Research Poll (August 29th):

Pro-austerity parties - 77.6%
Fascists - 7.8%
Communists - 5.8%
Popular Unity - 5.5%

good job left.


Kappa

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First expressed as an ideological concept in the process of Rifondazione Comunista‘s opening to the movements in the late 1990 and early 2000s, the term contaminazione marks an important dividing line between Communist and post-communist or new left parties. It demarcates them according to their propensity to allow reciprocity in ideological influence, towards as well as from other entities with similar goals.


This seems to be an incorrect genealogical explanation of the term:


contaminazione:.

What: "contamination", integral part of antiracist subculture formations, the posses who embrace contaminazione look for musical and political affinities in the transnational cultural forms of the black diaspora. Mixing of rap and African music genres with traditional Italian genres to create new hip hop sound
When: 1970s as a result of increase of immigration from North Africa
Why: help articulate a Pan-Europe counter discourse that questions basic tenets of EU, hold out vision of an egalitarian, antiracist, and social Europe that can be affirmed in the face of EU's increasing fortress mentality
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We need less contamination and more anti-fascist vaccines.Like, yesterday.
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Rihizzione Comunista
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i love pasta
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i wish i could read italian theres so much good shit in the italian communist movement.
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Or put it differently:

Since like all things, I strive to preserve my own being, I of course am all for contaminazione in principle.

But you can't contaminate what was never healthy to begin with. Nor do you inoculate people with a flu shot while they are suffering from a fever
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stegosaurus posted:

i wish i could read italian theres so much good shit in the italian communist movement.



like what?

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il manifesto and the PdUP, operaismo, the catholic left, stuff like that.
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UNUSUALY COOL
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when italian communists and italian catholic politicians started talking to each other the cia felt it had no choice but to drop subtlety and respond with a barely concealed campaign of assassinations

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lucio magri is up there with mishima in terms of 20th c tragic figures except his politics were extremely good instead of hilarious.
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Online
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http://www.theawl.com/2015/08/literary-magazines-for-socialists-funded-by-the-cia-ranked
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Mike Nelson here.
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sometimes i imagine going to italy next year on exchange. except most people who do that dream of fucking in an orchard or something but i just want to talk about state theory with italians. if patriarchy ends though obviously... when in rome!
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Mike Nelson here.
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i have a lot of thoughts about picking an exchange which are based on entirely imagined criteria. like i start trying to figure out a nash efficient strategy where i'm not competing against dozens of other people. like... hmm.... no one wants to go to rural czechoslovakia... but they probably only have only slot and some czech-canadian guy will get it.
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Instead of exchange try use. Visit beautiful alchevsk, novorossiya.
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Mike Nelson here.
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there is an exchange to russia but it's in karelia.... not sure i want to be there in winter to be honest.
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Mike Nelson here.
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actually i can't really go on exchange but i am thinking about doing a reading course next summer if i can convince a professor. probably on something like kant and hegel instead of cool shit about neo-maoists or whatever.
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cars posted:

when italian communists and italian catholic politicians started talking to each other the cia felt it had no choice but to drop subtlety and respond with a barely concealed campaign of assassinations



Vive Moro! In paradisum deducant te Angeli

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The Historcal Ccomprise between the Italians Communists and the Chrisitan Democrats was a marriage of two strong oppositions. Hence it's status as a unique potential threat in the eyes of the Atlancticist powers but also why each side could enter into it with a certain confidence that they wouldn't be merely swallowed up by the other. By contrast, because Syriza and KKE are so much closer to each other ideologically than the Italians parties were, any union between those two can be expected to overwhelm the smaller party. Thus, the KKE abandoning it's distinctive ideological line for 'solidarity' with a movement that is marching in a completely different direction, and no where fast, would not only be unprincipled, it would be politically sucidal.




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Only Mao could shake hands with Nixon.
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I feel like the compromise was also suicidal for the cpi. In that they gave up their oppositional tactics in order to gain legitimacy and power in the government, but were excluded from that government and not given any more power to change things.
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i feel like it's a good opportunity to not blame communists for some problems they had
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Gladio's strategy of tension, and the Italian's state's inability/unwillingness to effectively counter it overshadows all the other factors that ensured the ignoble and profitless breakdown of the compromise than any parliamentary hang ups.