swirlsofhistory posted:HenryKrinkle posted:http://femme-werewolf.tumblr.com/post/103222082951/the-thing-about-violent-revolution-being-ableist
That's actually a fair criticism. Usually when things go to shit, it's healthy young men who end up on top because they are the strongest. Prolonged revolution or civil war between classes would be a holocaust for the disabled, unless they became willing participants by strapping bombs to themselves.
Willing, unwilling.. the important thing is they will be useful.
swirlsofhistory posted:c_man posted:i finished a book asking why there was a philosophy of mathematics at all, which basically consisted of interesting historical and social analyses interrupted by awful tedious garbage about current analytic philosophy of mathematics which the author was smart enough not to express too much interest in. should i read some history or some fiction next? is fernand braudel any good? is he fash?
What book?
its called "Why is there a philosophy of mathematics at all?" by ian hacking, a foucaultian who for some reason identifies as a cambridge analytic philosopher
cata posted:I started reading Brothers Karamazov. This is the first Dostoevsky book I've read and so far I'm really enjoying it. I'm pretty interested in seeing how his overall theological stance turns out to be in the end since the book seems to present boths sides of the "is there a god" argument pretty well
Probably his best book as he never finished it RIP.
orchestra_hit posted:he did finish it. the book definitely has an ending.
Eddie Karamazov smirked at Jake. "Brothers to the end, Jake?" "Brothers to the end, Eddie." They had four shots left between them. There were easily two hundred soldiers outside of the shack.
cata posted:Oh wow, totally didn't know he didn't finish it
The culprit wastes himself and the innocent suspect looks for a way out of his situation. There's a short story Dostoevsky wrote about a dude using cash as an excuse to explain away a legitimate emotional encounter with a female. Like wtf.
tpaine posted:all books have an ending, butt turd
counterpoint, reality
http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2014/4/what-we-all-get-wrongaboutthearmeniangenocide.html
lol
cata posted:I was gonna say, I would have thought they would mention that in the Introduction but I didn't see anything like that.
It's finished, but there were supposedly plans for sequels, with the whole story entitled "The Life of a Great Sinner," presumably referring to Alyosha.
And wasted, I don't know why you would post spoilers for a book that someone has just begun reading.
Agnus_Dei posted:cata posted:I was gonna say, I would have thought they would mention that in the Introduction but I didn't see anything like that.
It's finished, but there were supposedly plans for sequels, with the whole story entitled "The Life of a Great Sinner," presumably referring to Alyosha.
And wasted, I don't know why you would post spoilers for a book that someone has just begun reading.
Thanks, Ive been worried someone would do this for the Bible... Cant wait to see where this adam doofus ends up in 600 pages.
wasted posted:cata posted:Oh wow, totally didn't know he didn't finish it
The culprit wastes himself and the innocent suspect looks for a way out of his situation. There's a short story Dostoevsky wrote about a dude using cash as an excuse to explain away a legitimate emotional encounter with a female. Like wtf.
Are you talking about Notes From The Underground? I remember liking that one
walkinginonit posted:wasted posted:cata posted:Oh wow, totally didn't know he didn't finish it
The culprit wastes himself and the innocent suspect looks for a way out of his situation. There's a short story Dostoevsky wrote about a dude using cash as an excuse to explain away a legitimate emotional encounter with a female. Like wtf.
Are you talking about Notes From The Underground? I remember liking that one
He wrote several short stories that had the same theme i.e. "I'm a miserable piece of shit and therefore I'm always justified."
chickeon posted:http://www.dailydot.com/politics/vietnam-censorship-facebook-viet-tan-crackdown-outspoken/?tw=ddlookit this piece of shit haha
Viet Tan, a pro-democracy political party led by Vietnamese citizens in and outside of the country,
Still,while it was somewhat scanty on the economic side, it was very through regarding political forms. it suggested some interesting threads for thinking about the long term development of the French state, in terms of how it conceived of its relationship with its subjects, with its constitutive regions, with the Catholic Church, with what-would-become 'Europe', and with the world at large.
On level of foreign relations, King Louis's reign was a moment in a period of transition from a conception of Christiandom that extended into Asia and Africa towards one in which it became more narrowly identified with the 'West.' On the one hand, ironically enough, this was in part a positive development, marking as it did a growing disenchantment among ordinary people and with certain segments of the cultural class/clergy with the practice and the ideology of holy war. Even those who admired Louis's decision to go on a crusade considered it to be an irresponsible adventure in the light of 13th century understandings of the duties of kingship (even Joanville seems to have held this opinion). On the other hand, this same disenchantment reflected a steadily rising perception among Western European that the Christian of the East, in particular those of the Near Eastern Crusading Kingdoms-were 'Orientalized', decadent, and of suspect loyalties, not really part of the same community as themselves-and thus could be abandoned with impunity (or even pillaged by the Western Christians themselves).
On the domestic side, Louis' reign continued the ongoing trajectory of the French monarchy (in many ways the opposite of England's) towards centralization with the aim of limiting the power of the aristocracy. This was done through the concentration of judicial authority in royal representatives, through using royal edicts with a 'national' scope to present itself as a power that could be appealed to over the quilt work of feudal relationships, and through empowering the urban communes at the expense of the lords.The other, darker side of this project was the rise of a more 'disciplined' conception of the ideal Christian polity, which involved continuing the war against internal heresy (which however did somewhat calm down under Louis IX) and tightening restrictions on the liberty of the Jews, the later policy being most dramatically represented by the mass burning of copies of the Talmud in 1243.
Regarding specifically ecclesiastical concerns, it is of interest to point out that King Louis cultivated an image of sanctity in part to legitimize his insistence on excluding the church from having a say in the temporal affairs of his kingdom. In this respect, he could be said to be closer than one might think to his contemporary HRE Frederick II (whom he refused to backstab, even when invited to by the pope), pursuing the same goal as his imperial counterpart of reasserting sovereignty through trying to earnestly follow the generally accepted ideal of Christian kingship instead of by attempting to revive antique Roman examples/import Byzantine models. This set a precedent for later relationships between Rome and the French State prior to 1789 (and to some extant after that as well): The latter justified its independent existence by seeking to 'outdo' the Catholicism of the former instead of engaging in outright schism. The pursuit of the virtuous and equitable regime replaced the drive towards Reformation, thus provoking a generalized interiorization and complexification of dissent instead of the coalescing of a visible alternative church.
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walkinginonit posted:So I wanted to either read a biography on Mao or a history of The Black Panthers. Any suggestions?
for the bpp, you could try newton's autobiography, revolutionary suicide, it has some history of the party, especially the founding, but is really more of a personal history, and it ends around '72
there's also his doctoral dissertation on police repression you can find here: http://ouleft.org/wp-content/uploads/Huey-WATP.pdf but while it also contains some history, it's not really a 'history of the party'
there was some more straight up history that came out recently, black against empire, but i haven't read it so idk, here's a 'socialist' review i just found :
"However it is a history rather than a critique. So it is weakest in suggesting how things could have been different. It is tragic that the US left looked to Maoist guerrilla strategies to organise, rather than the rich tradition of working class struggle."
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after that allyn wants to sleep on the floor instead of with the other prisoners in the same bed and one guy goes "fine go ahead you stink"
then this other guy named Deng or whatever, he's correctly pegged by the others as a formerly western-oriented intellectual solely by virtue of his nerdy glasses, he says "Just as all foreigners do"
to which one of the other prisoners says
"yeah well you would know...you hang around them enough"
then later one of them brings allyn rickett hot water and he goes Agh this is too hot...im going to let it cool first
and the guys are like What the fuck...
one goes Yeah white people like things cold it's weird. They even put ice in their tea,
and Big Lu goes What The Fuck again.
People didn't like the Fair. People tried to like it, though. They agreed to like it. The Fair was hard to like, but they agreed to like it. Not to like it was the same thing as to break the agreement that was all that stood between them and being alone. The message of many things in America is "Like this or die." It is a strain. Suddenly, the modes of death begin to be attractive.
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c_man posted:according to this intro world history book i started going thru (not the cool one i posted about before), neanderthals could not have had language because they would not have been able to pronounce certain sounds necessary for english