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#2
i guess this is growing up
#3
the work that is wrought under the sun? vanity and vexation imo
#4
The world is a vampire.
#5
thats a strange thing for a religious person to say.
#6
it's a fallen world. it's fundamentally unfair. source: god
#7
Agreed op. That's why I've decided to be on the winning side.
#8
this world is so corrupt
#9
I tend to think the concept of fairness relates to small scale interactions and attempts to abstract it towards society don't really work that well. Also if there were a readily available concept of social justice I don't know why everyone wouldn't just do that. Like why would everyone in the world constantly be tolerating unfairness. I also am not really sure that fairness exists as like a rule but rather just something pleasant. Like if I take more than my share it's mean and bad of me but it doesn't like create a cosmic imbalance. In conclusion, please support communism over liberalism.
#10
stalin understood this problem, that's why he invented gulags
#11
you forgot about karma, op
#12

TG posted:

you forgot about karma, op

#13
Communism's biggest limitation is its inability to explain and establish morality and fairness. Until communism is expanded and updated in light of this fact, it will always be insufficient.
#14

Lykourgos posted:

The biggest problem about the philosophy of historical fluidity and change is that it has to yet establish a permanent moral ideal.

#15
Your misquote needs to be explained, or better yet a communist could try stepping up to the crease and resolve the underlying issue.
#16

Lykourgos posted:

Your misquote needs to be explained, or better yet a communist could try stepping up to the crease and resolve the underlying issue.





#17
congrats to philosophers for their countless explanations of morality and fairness
#18
https://twitter.com/jaythenerdkid/status/573305877714767872
#19
this whole "communism as a lifestyle choice" thing is starting to get pretty weird.
#20
ok, i'll marry you
#21
helly eah
#22

HenryKrinkle posted:

https://twitter.com/jaythenerdkid/status/573305877714767872

what the fuck is wrong with people

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#24
Communist Party of India (Dudebro)
#25
it was kind of funny going to a meeting of indian commies once and they all sat together and discussed lyotard
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#27
what will be the new movement for rhizzoners to take up, now that the pillars of communism have been toppled itt
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Lykourgos posted:

Communism's biggest limitation is its inability to explain and establish morality and fairness. Until communism is expanded and updated in light of this fact, it will always be insufficient.



{reloading rifle over a pile of dead south american villagers}as you can see, communisms biggest limitation is its inability to explain and establish morality and fairness

#30
something something bowel movement, much like your posting. exeunt omnes

e: TPAINE.
#31

Gibbonstrength posted:

Lykourgos posted:

Communism's biggest limitation is its inability to explain and establish morality and fairness. Until communism is expanded and updated in light of this fact, it will always be insufficient.

{reloading rifle over a pile of dead south american villagers}as you can see, communisms biggest limitation is its inability to explain and establish morality and fairness



well nobody said that communists couldn't be vicious. stalin killed at least 20 billion people

#32
my wife won't let me post about the strike in case I leak anything sensitive. Unfair!!!!!!!!
#33
agreed, stalin killed billions of people by failing to bring communism to the world outside the glorious Soviet Union and abandoning us all to the ravages of capitalism. If Stalin could only managed to have lived forever this not happen
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Lykourgos posted:

what will be the new movement for rhizzoners to take up, now that the pillars of communism have been toppled itt


I'm trying to write a response without being a boring windbag, so far I've been writing like a boring windbag.

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#37
I ended up writing way too much garbage. Anyway, the basic principal of Marxism is that it studies the movement of social organization (both development and decay) based on contradiction. On the very premise alone, if social organization is the primary factor of keeping the human race alive then a persons morals are not just secondary to social organization, but informed by that social organization in the first place. This is apparent when we consider how things like, say human sacrifice, can be either acceptable or monstrous depending on what social context both the actor and his judges are in.

That's what I meant by the misquote is that Marxism is a philosophy of the change of social structure and finds morality as subservient to society in the first place. If we consider that humanity is something that is always reorganizing itself then it follows that morality is something that is always reorganizing itself. I'm sure you know that the word "morality" comes from "mores" (customs.)
#38
mods plz edit the op from "n/t" to "no shit"
#39

HenryKrinkle posted:

https://twitter.com/jaythenerdkid/status/573305877714767872



a great troll i think would be to say "i refuse to ID as an intersectionalist because the movement is largely white and from the first world"

but i dont want to deal with my twitter blowing up from outraged internet liberals this early in the morning

#40
you're right op. anybody want to start a hedge fund