tpaine posted:

are people really so preoccupied with boning that they have to make it into this grand social discussion. Ableism. Queer Theory. Sexual Politics. Geeeennndddeeeeeerrrrrrrrrr!!!

tpaine, you gotta get laid!!!!!

Jaspir_PUA posted:

In Terrorist Assemblages (TA), for instance, I critically interrogate LGBTQ activist responses to the 2003 Supreme Court ruling in U.S. v. Lawrence, which decriminalized sodomy between consenting adults acting in private, bringing into relief how the celebration of the queer liberal subject as bearer of privacy rights and economic freedom sanctions a regime of racialized surveillance, detention, and deportation. TA shows how homonationalism goes global, moreover, as it undergirds U.S. imperial structures through an embrace of a sexually progressive multiculturalism justifying foreign intervention. For example, both the justifications and the admonishments provoked by the Abu Ghraib photos rely on Orientalist constructions of Muslim male sexuality as simultaneously excessively queer and dangerously premodern. The discursive field produced around Abu Ghraib enlists homonormative U.S. subjects in the defense of “democratic” occupation.

then there's something about how Israel Is Gay in here http://www.jasbirpuar.com/assets/Puar_Rethinking-Homonationalism.pdf

tpaine posted:

who you want to stick your dick into doesn't matter beyond whether or not you should be oppressed for it or legally told not to do it, it doesn't mean your politics are different or that you have some unique viewpoint, it's fucking

getfiscal posted:

i forgot the translation of that was coming out. good times.

does the 2014 bromma on labor aristocracy have or point to any good data

Petrol posted:

I gather the point is to challenge the assumption that the formal measures to normalize homosexuality in the US are indicative of 'progress' in the liberal sense, by showing how a new kind of patriotic homo is being constructed and put into the service of imperialism. Which seems an obvious point but one that bears articulating. Whether Puar does it well, I don't know, because I haven't read the book, but homonationalism has a nice ring to it I guess.

Puar isn't just talking about that, she hitches it to this idea that queer sexualities in non-Western cultures are distinct sexual orientations from being gay, lesbian, transgender, etc. In other words, Ahmadinejad is right that there are no gay people in Iran, because according to Puar any sort of indigenous "gay" sexuality in Iran is distinct from contemporary Western gay sexuality. This is weird pomo crap IMO, also the whole assemblages crap definitely isn't helping.

One WDDP person actually knows the person who coined the term "homonationalism", and in that context it was more or less what you're describing, and she said he was really mad that Puar, Butler etc. latched onto it and turned it into Butlerian Jihad crap when it was originally a primarily political critique of mainstreaming, pinkwashing and the deployment of LGBT sexuality in the service of empire.