jools posted:yo daddyholes wanna hear something wild? skip to 46:05 on this http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04lsmhq
damn
cars was probated until (Oct. 24, 2014 02:48:14) for this post!
http://www.thelocal.se/20140827/swedish-government-to-allow-nato-to-deploy-troops posted:27 August 2014
Nato will soon be able to deploy forces to Sweden, with the government likely to sign an agreement with the military alliance this week, but an expert told The Local that full membership remains unlikely...
The decision is unlikely to be a precursor to Sweden becoming a fully fledged member of the alliance, according to the National Defence College (Försvarshögskolan).
"This is really a case of Sweden wanting to show that they have done their homework and have something to show at the Nato summit in Wales next month," Magnus Christensson, military strategist at the defence college told The Local.
He added: "Sweden is part of a frontrunner group discussing enhanced opportunities within Nato and this agreement is a part of that. I don't think we can say this is the latest step to full membership but Sweden is certainly becoming closer to Nato."
Election favourites the Social Democrats have long been opposed to joining the military alliance. Christensson said Nato wouldn't be an election issue as he felt none of the parties had anything to gain by making it a topic at the polls.
"In order for Sweden to become a full member of Nato there would need to be a serious threat and right now Russia is making a case for that. Being outside would also need to come at a cost and the Social Democrats would need to change their attitude on the matter completely."
http://www.europeangeostrategy.org/2014/10/swedens-new-government-nato-russia/ posted:19th October 2014
The Social-democratic party has a resistance to NATO codified in their self-image and will stay away from more overt integration with NATO. That said, the Social-democrats have supported Swedish participation in NATO’s Response Force and the signing of the Host-Nation Agreement. This brings memories of Olof Palme, who on the one hand marched with North-Vietnam’s ambassador and simultaneously had secret defence cooperation with the US and NATO against the Soviets, to mind.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/oct/20/guardian-view-on-sweden-defence-nato-inevitable posted:The Guardian view on Sweden’s defences: is Nato inevitable?
Editorial
Tuesday 21 October 2014
Embarrassment lies in store whether this intelligence operation finds anything or not. The only question is who will be most embarrassed. The Russians cannot have meant this particular incursion as a signal, since it was meant to stay secret. If the Swedes succeed in finding and rescuing the submarine, the Russians will look like blundering bullies. If, on the other hand, the Swedes fail, it will be more difficult even for them to believe that their armed forces play any great part in ensuring the security of their country. In the long run, the logic of Sweden’s geostrategic position makes Nato membership almost inevitable. This incursion, coming so soon after the invasion of the Crimea and Ukraine, should help to make the point clear.
The Guardian 
Superabound posted:almost twice as many Americans died in the Dust Bowl Famine as the number of people who died in the Holodomor Famine in Ukraine the same year. Which begs the question: how has Stalin escaped blame for engineering the deaths of over 7 million Americans for so long?
i want to find this whole article: http://english.pravda.ru/world/americas/19-05-2008/105255-famine-0/
it's continually purged off wikipedia lol
AmericanNazbro posted:Superabound posted:almost twice as many Americans died in the Dust Bowl Famine as the number of people who died in the Holodomor Famine in Ukraine the same year. Which begs the question: how has Stalin escaped blame for engineering the deaths of over 7 million Americans for so long?
i want to find this whole article: http://english.pravda.ru/world/americas/19-05-2008/105255-famine-0/
it's continually purged off wikipedia lol
http://rt.com/usa/interview-with-boris-borisov/ edit oh the article is removed from rt as well
second edit hell yeah http://www.soviet-empire.com/ussr/viewtopic.php?f=110&t=44837
swampman posted:AmericanNazbro posted:Superabound posted:almost twice as many Americans died in the Dust Bowl Famine as the number of people who died in the Holodomor Famine in Ukraine the same year. Which begs the question: how has Stalin escaped blame for engineering the deaths of over 7 million Americans for so long?
i want to find this whole article: http://english.pravda.ru/world/americas/19-05-2008/105255-famine-0/
it's continually purged off wikipedia lolhttp://rt.com/usa/interview-with-boris-borisov/edit oh the article is removed from rt as well
second edit hell yeah http://www.soviet-empire.com/ussr/viewtopic.php?f=110&t=44837
compare to previous NATO&co. white phosphorous war crimes:
(Fallujah):
(Palestine):
swampman posted:.custom254609{}AmericanNazbro posted:.custom254597{}Superabound posted:almost twice as many Americans died in the Dust Bowl Famine as the number of people who died in the Holodomor Famine in Ukraine the same year. Which begs the question: how has Stalin escaped blame for engineering the deaths of over 7 million Americans for so long?i want to find this whole article: http://english.pravda.ru/world/americas/19-05-2008/105255-famine-0/
it's continually purged off wikipedia lolhttp://rt.com/usa/interview-with-boris-borisov/ edit oh the article is removed from rt as well
second edit hell yeah http://www.soviet-empire.com/ussr/viewtopic.php?f=110&t=44837
the best part is where he says WPA is GULAGS in all caps
i should make a bingo sheet for reading a wikipedia article about communism though, a hit every time there's a citation using anne applebaum, conquest, rummel, that mao book, etc.
Petrol posted:
*goes to bookmark link* *is already bookmarked*
TheIneff posted:GULAG is an acronym that's why it's written in all caps fyi
actually its because lowercase cyrillic looks Weird As Hell
Its (nationalistic bourgeoisie literature) greatest weakness still lay where it has always been, in its audience – the petty-bourgeoisie readership automatically assumed by the very choice of language. Because of its indeterminate economic position between many contending classes, the petty-bourgoisie develops a vacillating psychological make-up...It can be swept to revolutionary activity by the masses at a time of revolutionary tide; or be driven to silence, fear, cynicism, withdrawal into self-contemplation, existential anguish, or to collaboration with the powers-that-be at times of reactionary tides...This very lack of identity in its psychological make-up as a class was reflected in the very literature it produced...In literature as in politics it spoke as if its identity or the crisis of its own identity was that of the society as a whole.
getfiscal posted:lol. i like the contrast between the empty suits and right sector, and the svoboda guy just blends in. i wonder if i'm legally allowed to give money to a party. it'd be funny to get involved, i bet left parties have no money.
From independent newspaper Timer.od.ua:
As of 12:00, only 8.8% of the total electorate had come to the polls.
These data were published on the website of the election commission. For comparison, in the presidential elections on 25 May at 11:00 turnout was already 12.15%, and the parliamentary elections of 2012 by 12:00 20.5% of the voters had already visited. It is worth noting that the average Ukraine turnout for 12:00 totaled 12.11%.
Comment by Александр Васильев:
“Well, let’s see how well our liberal fans of higher arithmetic build mathematical models and graphics for the Odessa region, when all of a sudden by the end of the day, turnout was given as 55%.”
anyway one of the students that spoke started telling this long story about how it was like ukraine's quest for freedom and how it was making world history and building true democracy and such. she was wearing an orange scarf and had various orange accents to boot. but when it clicked is when she said that she was staying in ontario for classes during the week and then flying to kiev for protests. and i thought like hmm... sort of odd that this woman can afford to weekend in kiev. which is the sort of thing you do when price is no object. it's not something you do when you're just upper-middle-class or something, because that person would go once and maybe write about it a lot (looks over to sam kriss lovingly), or they would send a bunch of money IRA style and brag about it at the bars or whatever. even if she did it a few times, that's like "my dad cornered the candy market in post-1991 ukraine" or like "i'm registered as a consultant at an NGO that is blank-check-ing my flights to ukraine because we need stylish winter boots on the ground". so i was like wow this must be bullshit.
in some sort of hegelian complement there was this other woman i clearly remember talking about the blood memory of the ukrainian people. i hadn't really heard that sort of thing before. i mean i was 23 years old and she was probably 21 and normally people in their early twenties in canada don't roll out long discussions of theories of how the spirit of the ukrainian nation is awakening through the bio-religious soul of the people or whatever. the professor was a liberal guy so he basically let her talk for a while and then was like hmm that's your opinion and i respect that, perhaps there is magic national blood, perhaps not.
eventually people just kept offering so many opinions about how this was the pivot of european history that the professor was like hey just my thoughts but i'm not sure this is a world-historical event. probably just some people worried about a stolen election and russian domination. but he did so in such an inoffensive way that the orange scarf girl kept interrupting to talk about how everything was changing now or whatever. anyway i was like damn these people have no idea what they are talking about.
Currently der spiegel has decided on framing it as a "decisive victory for pro-europeans"!
Crow posted:getfiscal posted:lol. i like the contrast between the empty suits and right sector, and the svoboda guy just blends in. i wonder if i'm legally allowed to give money to a party. it'd be funny to get involved, i bet left parties have no money.
From independent newspaper Timer.od.ua:
As of 12:00, only 8.8% of the total electorate had come to the polls.
These data were published on the website of the election commission. For comparison, in the presidential elections on 25 May at 11:00 turnout was already 12.15%, and the parliamentary elections of 2012 by 12:00 20.5% of the voters had already visited. It is worth noting that the average Ukraine turnout for 12:00 totaled 12.11%.
Comment by Александр Васильев:
“Well, let’s see how well our liberal fans of higher arithmetic build mathematical models and graphics for the Odessa region, when all of a sudden by the end of the day, turnout was given as 55%.”
Not according to my sources.
Ronnski posted:Jazenjuk...straight up fascists...pro-europeans
sounds completely correct