Crow posted:
You dont have to be a trot conservative liberal like bf to be wary of weaknesses that parade themselves under banners of false freedom. If you mean hedonism as like some sort of mastery of yourself, beyond stupid, naive drives, as something greater than simple urges of immediate pleasure, as something that breaks free from mental and spiritual slavery, then by all means go ahead.
But if you mean getting your rocks off like a grade A moron, following the path of least resistance, flooding your receptors with stimuli at every turn, swimming in enjoyment until it is dissolved of all pleasure, then that is a weakness. As Stalin says Weakness, Idleness, and Stupidity are perhaps the only true vices. So, unless you elevate your hedonism as some sort of Kantian Absolute Good (or Diabolical Evil, for that matter), you deserve to get a beating. Hedonism, to me, is more like Kant's Radical Evil, not that which is necessarily a horrible deed, but that which gives up on the notion that something other than our inclinations and interests could determine our conduct. That's pathetic.
i mean i have weaknesses, i'm just a man. But i'm not living under the illusion that drudging around in chains is freedom. Check your privilege.
Fun Police Alert
babyfinland posted:deadken posted:
i dont think i feel bad because i live wrong though, i felt bad when i was in a committed relationship, i felt bad during my celibate adolescence, its probably something intrinsic. except feeling bad is the wrong term really, im not like depresso or anything, im not even unhappy, i just feel this gap, this constant sense of abstraction & dislocation from everything. i know what the solution is though. im going to join a cultyes what you need is intentionality in your life, behind your actions, somethign to give your will to live tangible meaning. of course this is disgusting existentialism but thats about where youre at right now so so be it. apologies to any lurking liar-rapists in the audience who may have to write an abusively misognyistic novel to deal with the pain of reading this post
yeah exactly, im fully aware of this, im joining a cult
Crow posted:
You dont have to be a trot conservative liberal like bf to be wary of weaknesses that parade themselves under banners of false freedom. If you mean hedonism as like some sort of mastery of yourself, beyond stupid, naive drives, as something greater than simple urges of immediate pleasure, as something that breaks free from mental and spiritual slavery, then by all means go ahead.
But if you mean getting your rocks off like a grade A moron, following the path of least resistance, flooding your receptors with stimuli at every turn, swimming in enjoyment until it is dissolved of all pleasure, then that is a weakness. As Stalin says Weakness, Idleness, and Stupidity are perhaps the only true vices. So, unless you elevate your hedonism as some sort of Kantian Absolute Good (or Diabolical Evil, for that matter), you deserve to get a beating. Hedonism, to me, is more like Kant's Radical Evil, not that which is necessarily a horrible deed, but that which gives up on the notion that something other than our inclinations and interests could determine our conduct. That's pathetic.
i mean i have weaknesses, i'm just a man. But i'm not living under the illusion that drudging around in chains is freedom. Check your privilege.
Nice crowpost.
deadken posted:babyfinland posted:deadken posted:
i dont think i feel bad because i live wrong though, i felt bad when i was in a committed relationship, i felt bad during my celibate adolescence, its probably something intrinsic. except feeling bad is the wrong term really, im not like depresso or anything, im not even unhappy, i just feel this gap, this constant sense of abstraction & dislocation from everything. i know what the solution is though. im going to join a cultyes what you need is intentionality in your life, behind your actions, somethign to give your will to live tangible meaning. of course this is disgusting existentialism but thats about where youre at right now so so be it. apologies to any lurking liar-rapists in the audience who may have to write an abusively misognyistic novel to deal with the pain of reading this post
yeah exactly, im fully aware of this, im joining a cult
this is what happens when you join a cult http://niqnaq.wordpress.com/2012/01/02/i-wonder-whether-i-shall-get-a-reply-to-this/
Goethestein posted:
tom of babyfinland
isn't that the joke or is his name actually tom
Impper posted:
Wow bf with the dagger-words, and the alpha takedown, at the same time. Big stuff, big stuff.
you've been really cynical lately
Lessons posted:Goethestein posted:
tom of babyfinlandisn't that the joke or is his name actually tom
i thought his name was tom irl/.
EmanuelaOrlandi posted:
Tom you've convinced me. I'm gonna marry then next lady I fornicate with.
alhamdulillah brother
Lessons posted:Impper posted:
Wow bf with the dagger-words, and the alpha takedown, at the same time. Big stuff, big stuff.you've been really cynical lately
what are you talking about?
deadken posted:
i think i might have actually arrived at Truth, my experience of unsequenced meaningless Sensation is precisely the reality of the universe, the sense of abstraction i feel is the fundamental void that separates us from the world, in wanting to join a cult i'm deliberately shying away from the Real. truth isn't sufficient, i need a lie. this is something i intend to explore in my dumb words thing ive resolved to not start writing yet
have you ever read meister eckhart
deadken posted:
no
14th C christian mystic, worth reading imo. thomas merton who i mentioned before is 20th C guy who converted to catholicism and writes really well abotu the relevance of his faith in the modern world etc.
Nothing hinders the soul so much in attaining to the knowledge of God as time and place. Therefore, if the soul is to know God, it must know Him outside time and place, since God is neither in this or that, but One and above them. If the soul is to see God, it must look at nothing in time; for while the soul is occupied with time or place or any image of the kind, it cannot recognize God.
Our salvation depends upon our knowing and recognizing the Chief Good which is God Himself. I have a capacity in my soul for taking in God entirely. I am as sure as I live that nothing is so near to me as God. God is nearer to me than I am to myself... Thus must the soul, which would know God, be rooted and grounded in Him so steadfastly, as to suffer no perturbation of fear or hope, or joy or sorrow, or love or hate, or anything which may disturb its peace... the soul should be remote from all earthly things alike so as not to be nearer to one than another. It should keep the same attitude of aloofness in love and hate, in possession and renouncement, that is, it should be simultaneously dead, resigned and lifted up.
Impper posted:Lessons posted:Impper posted:
Wow bf with the dagger-words, and the alpha takedown, at the same time. Big stuff, big stuff.you've been really cynical lately
what are you talking about?
you used to be so fresh and full of life. now you just chew a mentos and scowl.
Lessons posted:
keekerguard is pretty cool, imo.
no doubt
Lessons posted:Impper posted:Lessons posted:Impper posted:
Wow bf with the dagger-words, and the alpha takedown, at the same time. Big stuff, big stuff.you've been really cynical lately
what are you talking about?
you used to be so fresh and full of life. now you just chew a mentos and scowl.
ummm ok
deadken posted:
when was impper ever full of life
after rape
littlegreenpills posted:
shahada.can be reduced to the monotone convergence theorem. It's True I Proved It
whats that
babyfinland posted:deadken posted:
when was impper ever full of lifeafter rape
deadken posted:
we're all p messed up at the rhizzone i think its just that our problems are more along the lines of the insufficiency of the Real rather than 'i havent talked to a human being in four days and i want to die'
speak for yourself
deadken posted:
we're all p messed up at the rhizzone i think its just that our problems are more along the lines of the insufficiency of the Real rather than 'i havent talked to a human being in four days and i want to die'
Agreed bit i prevent myself from wallowing in self-pity or excessive ennui by reminding myself i at least have a more comfortable and in many ways rich life than 90% of people who've ever lived on the planet.
And then people are all like “oooh but it’s still empty, in the past people had something to live and die for” as if arbitrarily dying scared and alone on a muddy battlefield in crimea or yucutan is somehow more noble or Real. I don't buy that
deadken posted:
imppers okcupid needs some serious revamping imo. i like the 'you should message me if you like to smash things' bit though. u should try to emphasise your more positive aspects i think, misery is profound but nobody wants a profoundly miserable fuck
i go through phases with it. sometimes it's pretty positive, sometimes it's one line or one word replies. i have no idea what i was doing on there today... but i just messaged a girl today with that profile and i might have a date coming up. i'm never sure what works and what doesn't, it seems random. so we'll see homie
babyfinland posted:
im so messed up, being happy and successful and healthy with a bright future. its tearing me apart.
affluenza..... first world misery is so much more profound than all the petty 'my arm got mangled in an industrial winch and now i'm dying slowly in a shanty town' bullshit.... too real, too grubby, too unsophisticated, no poetic potential, get it out my face