#10921
Mike Nelson here.
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TheIneff posted:

Can anyone point me in the right direction for a good selected works of the Gramsci prison notebooks?

just buy the new 3-volume set and read it all. what else do you have to do that's more important.

#10922
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speaking of gramsci im reading this chomsky book and this is a great summation of chomskys whole shtick;

Barsamian: Antonio Gramsci, who helped popularize the term "hegemony," wrote in 1925, "A main obstacle to change is the reproduction by the dominating forces of elements of the hegemonic ideology. It’s an important and urgent task to develop alternative interpretations of reality." How does someone develop "alternative interpretations of reality," as Gramsci suggests?

Chomsky: I respect Gramsci a lot, but I think it’s possible to paraphrase that comment, namely, just tell the truth. Instead of repeating ideological fanaticism, dismantle it, try to find out the truth, and tell the truth. Does that say anything different? It’s something any one of us can do. Remember, intellectuals internalize the conception that they have to make things look complicated, otherwise what are they around for? But it’s worth asking yourself how much of it really is complicated. Gramsci is a very admirable person, but take that statement and try to translate it into simple English. Is it complicated to understand, or to know how to act?

#10923
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lol one time i posted this gmil comic on chomsky in the anarchist subreddit that lightly pokes fun at the fact that a lot of his advice on direct action ends up being "just like idk organise, get out the vote" and I got like 29 downvotes in the span of a couple hours + people shout typing WHAT HAVE UUUUuuuuUUUUUuuuuuUUUU DONE FOR THE CAUSE LATELY HUH

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#10924
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reddit is fairly serious business
#10925
chickeon
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it's seriously fucking bad!!!! hate that shit
#10926
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i actually do a lot for the cause by not poisoning it with my presence
#10927
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#10928
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[Macklemore thrift shop voice] Damn, thats really unfunny.
#10929
Mike Nelson here.
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if socialists really did emerge from the sewers and demand my vote then maybe i'd rethink voting for hillary clinton in 2016... just kidding.
#10930
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ilmdge posted:

HenryKrinkle posted:

http://www.catsnotwar.blogspot.com/2014/06/the-mark-of-agent.html

ken got owned



haha he got fucking Owned

#10931
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Hey dead ken ifthe people who run the world are so damn stupid then how come youre not King FuckAss Of Shit Down Mountian pon De maltives son???
#10932
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i like that comic but i dont know if n. choomsky would necessarily be against Violent Revolution, i just dont think he feels its possible

when does a Lib become something more? when they talk about marx? i like marx... but im also a Lib

please forgive me for my sins
#10933
penitent
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TheIneff posted:

Can anyone point me in the right direction for a good selected works of the Gramsci prison notebooks?



i've got the 1971 lawrence & wishart edition it's pretty good but they're also the f*ckers who made marxists.org take down their stuff from the mecw so

#10934
UNUSUALY COOL
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i am glad you wrote that piece deadken because your opponents' responses brutally punished, brainwashed and trolled me into agreeing with their positions, and otherwise i might have gone on saying and thinking what I said and thought before. this is really unironically cool and great and i was helped by you provoking them.
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dead ken... ftw??
#10936
penitent
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tech blogger. lifestyle guru
#10937
Poronto
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dad
#10938
mean mewy
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Goongrats on the child(ren), deadken
#10939
Mike Nelson here.
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for what it's worth, i saw a gramsci scholar talk once and he spent a few minutes on how bad that 1971 L&W version is. but really that's probably the equivalent of audiophile nonsense about cables or whatever.
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UNUSUALY COOL
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what were his problems wrt it
#10941
Mike Nelson here.
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daddyholes posted:

what were his problems wrt it

i think he thought it made gramsci sound too reformist and that it missed a lot of important stuff. he seemed angry that intellectuals talk about hegemony in a way that gramsci would have disagreed with.

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#10943
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getfiscal posted:

daddyholes posted:

what were his problems wrt it

i think he thought it made gramsci sound too reformist and that it missed a lot of important stuff. he seemed angry that intellectuals talk about hegemony in a way that gramsci would have disagreed with.



judging by that chomsky quote it would seem that he might have a point. than again my infantile mental disorders are getting in the way of mustering up stronk will to read all 3 volumes of "why I hate fascism" that he wrote while he was locked up in a fascist prison so I'm gonna have to resort to option Liberal and get the deadken approved selected works.

#10944
tardy on these heaters
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ive heard the selected works is a better read anyway
#10945
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TheIneff posted:

getfiscal posted:

daddyholes posted:

what were his problems wrt it

i think he thought it made gramsci sound too reformist and that it missed a lot of important stuff. he seemed angry that intellectuals talk about hegemony in a way that gramsci would have disagreed with.

judging by that chomsky quote it would seem that he might have a point. than again my infantile mental disorders are getting in the way of mustering up stronk will to read all 3 volumes of "why I hate fascism" that he wrote while he was locked up in a fascist prison so I'm gonna have to resort to option Liberal and get the deadken approved selected works.



might as well read about why he hates fascism, its back in style now, That fascism you dont like reading is back in style now

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deadken posted:

tech blogger. lifestyle guru

thats me

#10947
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read The Garden of Truth by Seyyed Hossein Nasr

now reading The Bitterest Pills by Joanna Moncrieff and it owns as much as Robert Whitaker's book

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#10948
hi
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i started a subreddit for discussing US imperialism if anyone cares.
http://www.reddit.com/r/USImperialism/

i'll probably end up abandoning it. just experimenting w/ reddit i guess.
#10949
tardy on these heaters
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howd u like garden of truth
#10950
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It was really cool! I like Nasr a lot. I also read Sufism: A Beginner's Guide by Chittick a while ago and want to read it again now that I'm in a better space
#10951
tardy on these heaters
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cool i like both of those guys. schoun is cool too
#10952
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yeah, Nasr mentions him a lot. I'll have to check him out too
#10953
tardy on these heaters
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good to see u around pal
#10954
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thanks, you too
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#10956
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'Out of the Mountains' is making me want to move all the rest of my family out of Medellin thanks babyfinland
#10957
tardy on these heaters
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TheIneff posted:

'Out of the Mountains' is making me want to move all the rest of my family out of Medellin thanks babyfinland



lol sorry

#10958
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zizek is a plagiarist

http://withendemanndom.blogspot.fr/2014/07/slavoj-zizek-philosophaster-and_9.html?m=1
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hi
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#10960
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Agnus_Dei posted:

zizek is a plagiarist

http://withendemanndom.blogspot.fr/2014/07/slavoj-zizek-philosophaster-and_9.html?m=1



Some more work by Stanley Hornbeck

http://www.unz.org/Pub/AmRenaissance-1999mar-00006?View=PDFPages