chickeon posted:i thought solicitation was already illegal and in fact technically the only associated crime in our country. anyways we should shoot piumps and johns
i'm not sure. the supreme court struck down all prostitution laws because it was obvious they were causing sex workers not to enjoy security as required under the charter. they gave the government a year to fix the laws. the government has now decided to essentially interpret the SCC decision in as narrow a manner as possible, meaning that many aspects of prostitution will be illegal except for like earning as a prostitute.
getfiscal posted:chickeon posted:
i thought solicitation was already illegal and in fact technically the only associated crime in our country. anyways we should shoot piumps and johns
i'm not sure. the supreme court struck down all prostitution laws because it was obvious they were causing sex workers not to enjoy security as required under the charter. they gave the government a year to fix the laws. the government has now decided to essentially interpret the SCC decision in as narrow a manner as possible, meaning that many aspects of prostitution will be illegal except for like earning as a prostitute.
Do you know why the supreme court decided to look at prostitutes like that? Like, drug dealers don't have a lot of on the job security, but I don't see the court overturning all drug laws. Also, why is harm reduction taken as being the same thing as justice?
getfiscal posted:i'm not a lawyer but i'm almost certain
lol this is the best way to start a sentence
Lykourgos posted:lol this is the best way to start a sentence
i said it like that specifically so you parasites of the bar wouldn't hassle me!!!!
swirlsofhistory posted:Do you know why the supreme court decided to look at prostitutes like that? Like, drug dealers don't have a lot of on the job security, but I don't see the court overturning all drug laws. Also, why is harm reduction taken as being the same thing as justice?
i believe it was because the specific laws governing their activity caused them real danger to the security of their persons such that the policy justification was not consistent with section 7 of the charter. for example, not being able to maintain a place of business and not being able to hire security. i don't think there was a specific law against selling sex in canada actually, just against solicitation in public and the various laws prohibiting the infrastructure of selling sex (laws against bawdy houses, laws against living off proceeds, etc.).
which is why some lawyers are now saying that this just re-criminalizes a lot of the interlocking elements of the sex trade such that women will still face danger due to the law. if that's true the courts will strike down the law again. some lawyers on cbc and such are saying the government knows this will happen and are just pandering to the right-wing (who would be outraged otherwise).
Bablu posted:yeah twitter escorts are buttmad over this. so are their sjw hangers on
what is the best way to keep ones finger on the pulse of twitter escorts
kajsa ekis ekman - being & being bought
Grounded in the reality of the violence and abuse inherent in prostitution—and reeling from the death of a friend to prostitution in Spain—Kajsa Ekis Ekman exposes the many lies in the ‘sex work’ scenario. Trade unions aren’t trade unions. Groups for prostituted women are simultaneously groups for brothel owners. And prostitution is always presented from a woman’s point of view. The men who buy sex are left out.
Drawing on Marxist and feminist analyses, Ekis Ekman argues that the Self must be split from the body to make it possible to sell your body without selling yourself. The body becomes sex. Sex becomes a service. The story of the sex worker says: the Split Self is not only possible, it is the ideal.
Turning to the practice of surrogate motherhood, Kajsa Ekis Ekman identifies the same components: that the woman is neither connected to her own body nor to the child she grows in her body and gives birth to. Surrogacy becomes an extended form of prostitution. In this capitalist creation story, the parent is the one who pays. The product sold is not sex but a baby. Ekis Ekman asks: why should this not be called child trafficking?
This brilliant exposé is written with a razor-sharp intellect and disarming wit and will make us look at prostitution and surrogacy and the parallels between them in a new way.
gyrofry posted:Bablu posted:
yeah twitter escorts are buttmad over this. so are their sjw hangers on
what is the best way to keep ones finger on the pulse of twitter escorts
two fingers on the wrist while you're getting the other one to flush the evidence
swirlsofhistory posted:Do you know why the supreme court decided to look at prostitutes like that? Like, drug dealers don't have a lot of on the job security, but I don't see the court overturning all drug laws. Also, why is harm reduction taken as being the same thing as justice?
there was a thing a while back that started in an ontario court and went all the way to the supreme court that would have effectively ended cannabis prohibition in the country if it wasn't overturned or whatever @ the federal level (it was of course)
R v. Mernagh i think
swirlsofhistory posted:Do you know why the supreme court decided to look at prostitutes like that?
what getfiscal said is correct. remember prostitution is not illegal here, so comparing it to drug dealing is wrong. the laws that were struck down (no public communication, no 'bawdy houses', the money made in prostitution cannot be paid to someone else (pimps but also drivers, bodyguards, etc)) just made this legal activity more dangerous just so that society can ignore that prostitution happens. the court basically thinks -- ok, if you want to make it illegal, make it fucking illegal, but while it's legal then people must be able to pursue their daily lives as prostitutes with no extra danger put on their lives because of some bullshit side laws that merely exist to force prostitution out of the public eye.
you can read the opinion here: http://scc-csc.lexum.com/scc-csc/scc-csc/en/item/13389/index.do i don't know about other supreme courts, but SCC rulings are very readable and intelligent, imo.
chickeon posted:i thought solicitation was already illegal and in fact technically the only associated crime in our country. anyways we should shoot piumps and johns
Panda Eats, Shoots, Pimps, And Johns