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i'm an ash'ari occasionalist. god causes. created things can not be efficient causes
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babyfinland posted:

i'm an ash'ari occasionalist. god causes. created things can not be efficient causes



noone cares about your eve online character tom

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#204
sf fans love glottal stops which is why my Hugo award winning novel is just 900,000 pages of apostrophes
#205
so do those filthy arabs
#206
I’m an edgemaster. If you’re unfamiliar with that term, it means I’m a master of the sword. You wouldn’t last two seconds in a fight against me, I assure you.
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Lessons posted:

deadken posted:

"Men make their own history, but they do not make it as they please; they do not make it under self-selected circumstances, but under circumstances existing already, given and transmitted from the past. D'oh! I like straggling my son Bart. What are you waiting for? Follow me for a donut."

Your fukkin stupid, "mate", that's actually one of the more voluntaristic statements in Marx and is also just trivially true. I have no idea how you go from "history influences current events" to "Elliot Rodgers was under the thrall of 15th century aristocracy even though he didn't know anything about it and just watched Game of Thrones".


what about all of those freemen on the land/admiralty court type people. they're definitely trapped in some kind of post-feudal twilight zone

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http://kotaku.com/girls-claim-slender-man-is-real-stab-classmate-19-time-1585164160

Girls Claim Slender Man Is Real, Accused Of Stabbing Friend 19 Times

Two 12-year-old girls from Waukesha, Wisconsin are facing attempted murder charges following a brutal attack on one of their classmates. An attack they say was inspired by their devotion to internet horror myth Slender Man.

The accused, Morgan Geyser and Anissa Weier, are alleged to have invited a friend over for a sleepover, during which they had planned to murder her in order to appeal to Slender Man, who they say lived in a mansion in nearby countryside.

While out at a park the next day, Geyser is accused of stabbing their "friend" 19 times before leaving her for dead. The friend survived, however, having staggered towards a road where she was discovered and rushed to hospital.

The Journal Sentinel has a chilling account of the crime, including claims from Geyser that Slender Man had threatened to kill her family if she did not commit the murder.

Weier told police that Slender Man is the "leader" of Creepypasta, and in the hierarchy of that world, one must kill in order to show dedication. Weier said that Geyser told her they should become "proxies" of Slender Man — a paranormal figure known for his ability to create tendrils from his fingers and back — and kill their friend to prove themselves worthy of him. Weier said she was surprised by Geyser's suggestion, but also excited to prove skeptics wrong and show that Slender Man really did exist.

The two accused are being tried as adults due to the severity and nature of the crime. Were they to be tried as juveniles they would be released at the age of 25 if found guilty; tried as adults they could face up to 65 years in prison.
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I'm always confused as to how "severity of the crime" is can get you tried as an adult. Only adults are twisted enough for this shit...

who invented this bullshit reason to put people in jail longer anyways?
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gyrofry posted:

I’m an edgemaster. If you’re unfamiliar with that term, it means I’m a master of the sword. You wouldn’t last two seconds in a fight against me, I assure you.



i too am a master of edging, but in my case it involves lasting A LOT longer than two seconds

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their only true crime was living in waukesha
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c_man posted:

what about all of those freemen on the land/admiralty court type people. they're definitely trapped in some kind of post-feudal twilight zone



those are literally the best people in America. because of them the government made it an Act of Terror for non-lawyers to try to confuse judges with obscure references to legal precedent lmao

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Superabound posted:

those are literally the best people in America. because of them the government made it an Act of Terror for non-lawyers to try to confuse judges with obscure references to legal precedent lmao


??? got a link or something?

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c_man posted:

Superabound posted:

those are literally the best people in America. because of them the government made it an Act of Terror for non-lawyers to try to confuse judges with obscure references to legal precedent lmao

??? got a link or something?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paper_terrorism
http://www.rhizzone.net/forum/topic/4261/?page=1

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lol
#217
sovereign citizens are the best, they get dragged in on driving without a valid license all the time and talk about how, due to the fringe on the american flag in the courtroom, admiralty law controls or some such. also freedom of contract, blah blah. very entertaining
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if your legal person dies in an admiralty court, you die in REAL LIFE!
#220

TG posted:

sovereign citizens are the best, they get dragged in on driving without a valid license all the time and talk about how, due to the fringe on the american flag in the courtroom, admiralty law controls or some such. also freedom of contract, blah blah. very entertaining



It can be extremely amusing, it's tough to choose my favourite sovereign citizen moment. Next time a moor comes in on a misdemeanor traffic offence, my plan is to go "oh... oh no... we... there's... there's no jurisdiction? judge? please... my power... it's fading..."

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deadken posted:

elliot rodger was a loser and a virgin but not me, i've read derrida



'Adorno points out, happiness is always something you remember, not something you experience'

i call bullshit on that

fun piece tho

#222
'Like Wordsworth, he can’t tolerate the internal difference of things – hence the continual egotistical return to the illusory unity of the self. '

it's call autism and it's becoming the new normal

In the end, it comes back to Tintern Abbey and the dissolution of the monasteries. Elliot Rodger was propelled by a murderous culture of male entitlement, one in which women aren’t in any sense human beings but mere walking dispensers of sexual gratification. It’s an institutionalised system of domination that we’re all to some degree responsible for, a fact only confirmed by the inevitable self-centred attempts to wriggle out of this responsibility: but not all men!



this seems a bit like pandering but fair enough

#223

He has an aristocratic horror of truck and barter, the processes of negotiation through which most people navigate the libidinal economy



wherein deadken endorses the concept of the Sexual Marketplace.....

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roseweird posted:

Lykourgos posted:

TG posted:

sovereign citizens are the best, they get dragged in on driving without a valid license all the time and talk about how, due to the fringe on the american flag in the courtroom, admiralty law controls or some such. also freedom of contract, blah blah. very entertaining

It can be extremely amusing, it's tough to choose my favourite sovereign citizen moment. Next time a moor comes in on a misdemeanor traffic offence, my plan is to go "oh... oh no... we... there's... there's no jurisdiction? judge? please... my power... it's fading..."

"next time a moor comes in" = 4 upvotes



http://archive.adl.org/learn/ext_us/scm.html?xpicked=4

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crow's link says that some black groups of sovereign citizens call themselves moors
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roseweird posted:

they sound cool, i'm going to be one of those except i'm going to ignore court summons



they often do, and then a warrant goes out and ensures their appearance by placing them in custody. its almost like the state has the power to enact violence against a person regardless of their consent

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#237

roseweird posted:

is this really going to be the thread where tg and lykourgos chortle over how amusing when someone stupider and more confused than they are squirms in the grip of their state-sanctioned power


Always a nice change of pace from other threads

#238
i think the obvious lesson here is that the state cannot be defeated on its own terms and that only through violent revolution can true change come about. hide not behind your admiralty flags, ye moors. take arms against your sea of troubles and by opposing end them!
#239
b-but then how could i maintain the trappings of my bourgeois lifestyle AND get dat sweet sweet libidinal thrill of placing myself in symbolic opposition to paternal Authority by driving around with a fake licensce plate
#240
when the revolution comes where will you two hide