#81
butt cord....
#82
hudak released details of his education cuts today and they are horrendous. all class sizes up, junior kindergarten going from 2 teachers for 26 kids classes to 1 teacher for 20 kids classes, firing a lot support staff (like, school social workers and such, on top of his 100,000 public servants fired), ending the tuition rebate (which will increase tuition by almost $2,000 per year per student). all of the savings from this goes into tax cuts.
#83

getfiscal posted:

hudak released details of his education cuts today and they are horrendous. all class sizes up, junior kindergarten going from 2 teachers for 26 kids classes to 1 teacher for 20 kids classes, firing a lot support staff (like, school social workers and such, on top of his 100,000 public servants fired), ending the tuition rebate (which will increase tuition by almost $2,000 per year per student). all of the savings from this goes into tax cuts.



jesus

#84
marxism-leninism in the news:

"The University of Saskatchewan has high expectations of its senior leaders to support the university’s directions and to lead their implementation. Top among current priorities are the university’s TransformUS initiatives. Leaders have opportunities to express personal opinions in leadership discussions. Once decisions are made, all leaders are expected to support the university’s directions," read the statement.
#85
noice
#86
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#87
the entire media today was like so uhh ndp lady when are you releasing your platform. and she was like oh there are many days left. i feel like the obama drones around her must have some amazing scheme or something because otherwise this is such a bad campaign.
#88
Canadian Asked To Provide Opinion
Politely Declines; Cites Existence of Time, Space
#89

getfiscal posted:

the entire media today was like so uhh ndp lady when are you releasing your platform. and she was like oh there are many days left. i feel like the obama drones around her must have some amazing scheme or something because otherwise this is such a bad campaign.


the people working on a provinicial, canadian, just-barely-still-socialist political party campaign probably aren't the brightest lights

#90

drwhat posted:

the people working on a provinicial, canadian, just-barely-still-socialist political party campaign probably aren't the brightest lights

wow rude!

#91
i thought they fully expunged the last vestiges of official socialism some time around when ol JL died
#92
they struck it from the party constitution a year or two before he died, iirc
#93

chickeon posted:

i thought they fully expunged the last vestiges of official socialism some time around when ol JL died

yeah. last year they changed their constitutional preamble from being explicitly socialist to being a generic progressive party that only keeps a broad reference to "social democrats and democratic socialists" building the party. the party is still a member of the socialist international.

the ontario section's preamble is still vaguely left-wing sounding though:

The provincial Party will unite progressive people and organizations into a party democratically controlled and openly financed by its membership. It will, with all the resources at its command, extend the policies and program on a provincial level of the New Democratic Party (of Canada).

It will endeavour to establish in this province a government whose objective shall be to substitute economic planning for irresponsible control with all its unjust consequences and thereby to give maximum opportunity for public, co-operative, and private enterprise to contribute to the development of our province. To this end we will invite the co-operation of all persons who are dedicated to the extension of freedom, the abolition of poverty, and the elimination of exploitation.

the ontario new democratic youth had a preamble that until recently said something exactly like "we will not rest until capitalism has been abolished from the earth".

although i don't really think the change was that big of a deal. most party members and their supporters are not socialists, so making it a generic social-democratic party seems fine to me. it helps clear the ground for a real socialist party, though, i think. although i'm not really sure parliamentary politics will ever yield what we "need"

#94
for a while the ndp refused to put its constitution on its webpage because they were afraid of people reading their page and coming across a preamble that was like "we are socialists yay". people pointed out that you have to agree to the preamble to become a member but they didn't care. when they changed the preamble they added the constitution to their webpage.
#95
my interest is more in the small anticapitalist organizations that are springing up in english canada (quebec is sort of a separate thing). like 'solidarity halifax', and the greater toronto workers assembly. i was a member of the GTWA when i lived there. it wasn't very productive at the time, because you had people with radically different views trying to come to a consensus on what to do, but it felt better than just 'normal' politics or sectarianism i guess. the truth is that most people have no idea what we should do i think. other than fightback which is just support the NDP.
#96
although i shouldn't make fun of fightback too much because i consider the ndp 'my party' insofar as it's the official party of the labour movement. i've voted for it every federal or provincial election since 2006.

i joined the NDP in 2012 to vote for the new leader. i gave a small amount ($25) to peggy nash and voted for her. she finished fourth with 16.8%. i supported her for basically two reasons. one was that tom mulcair made noises that he wanted to break the labour link of the party (labour unions in canada are official affiliates of the NDP), which BC had already done. peggy nash was a union leader and wouldn't do that. the other was that peggy nash actually talked about industrial policy sometimes and wanted things like sector councils, which was the only hint in the entire campaign that the potential leaders had ideas beyond "increase social programs and protect the environment".

i might donate to an NDP candidate in toronto i like because he deserves to win and the tax rebate is so big for it that it's almost dumb not to donate to someone (if you can afford to loan them the money until you get the rebate).
#97
Meanwhile in Utah I've been asked to prepare a presentation for the 10 ppl who show up to revolutionary student meetings. I was about to do a talk on kantorovich but that's not at all interesting to anyone except me so I think im going to pick 4 theories of what the soviet union was completely at random and summarize them. Its cool to discuss philosophy and economics with people irl.

So far I was going to do the Reagan theory (evil empire), the state capitalist theory, bordigas interpretation of the universal capitalist ruling class and its managerial placeholder in the USSR, and the deformed workers state or the psl slash Szymanski brezhnevite line. I think the frso is brezhnevite as well, but, they don't have a official line on it so you can be whoever you want. Allowing competing theories of state capitalism is the first stage of communization.
#98
that sounds like fun for some reason
#99
post the presentation here once you're done
#100
have someone video it so we can mercilessly mock + degrade you
#101
that's cool stego. sometimes i think i should give talks to groups of 10 people too. once i learn more about planning maybe i could talk about that. draw crowds to talk about economics that was contemporary in the 1970s. we could tag-team a talk about kantorovich. plywood factory operations management conferences will never be the same.
#102
i will warm up the crowd with this chest pounding chant thing i do its cool
#103
the ontario political contributions tax rebate rule is basically that if you give a party or candidate $400 you get $300 back from the government. which means even if (especially if) your parents pay your bills you can make a significant donation to a campaign.

after thinking it through a bit i guess these are my options:

1. give to the communist party of ontario, which is running ten candidates that will probably get 100 votes each. cons: revisionists, permanent official record that i donated to a communist party which might hurt my chances of becoming a bank manager.

2. give to the socialist praty of ontario, which is the CWI section here. basically the kshama sawant party. probably get 200 or so votes in the two ridings they are running in.

3. give to the NDP in my riding because you have to think globally but act locally.

4. don't give any money to politicians.
#104

getfiscal posted:

although i shouldn't make fun of fightback too much because i consider the ndp 'my party' insofar as it's the official party of the labour movement. i've voted for it every federal or provincial election since 2006.



i have done this as well for my entire voting life, i wrestle with it every election and it always seems like the correct choice. my local NDP candidates have always been very good. I voted for Linda Duncan when I was in Edmonton-Strathcona and convinced a few other people to do it too and she won by only a few hundred & it was a pretty big deal. felt good

this is what i do instead of smash capitalism, i file into a school or church and mark an x for the mildly left of centre party. i'm pretty hardcore

#105
my general belief is very orthodox: that social-democracy will be the default option for labour until it is shown in practice to be obviously unable to resolve capitalist crisis. when that happens there will be an opening for independent working class organization outside the normal boundaries of union economic organizing and social-democratic election organizing. at that point there will be a crunch of extreme radicalization and people will look for a force that can act from outside to impose a new order. in practice there are many ways that new order could come about, i think saying it has to be this or that way is misleading. but as an individual i will probably have almost no control over that process and can really just try to understand it, comment on it, and contribute at a micro level.
#106

getfiscal posted:

my general belief is very orthodox: that social-democracy will be the default option for labour until it is shown in practice to be obviously unable to resolve capitalist crisis. when that happens there will be an opening for independent working class organization outside the normal boundaries of union economic organizing and social-democratic election organizing. at that point there will be a crunch of extreme radicalization and people will look for a force that can act from outside to impose a new order. in practice there are many ways that new order could come about, i think saying it has to be this or that way is misleading. but as an individual i will probably have almost no control over that process and can really just try to understand it, comment on it, and contribute at a micro level.


yeah. i completely agree with that actually. though some days i do think that there are ways to have impact on that eventual critical moment, by trying to work on awareness and education and whatnot and then i think that would be a thing i would like to be doing with my life. and then other days i just want to drink

#107
i wish there was a left of center party in the us
#108
Rob Paul
#109

getfiscal posted:

my interest is more in the small anticapitalist organizations that are springing up in english canada (quebec is sort of a separate thing). like 'solidarity halifax', and the greater toronto workers assembly. i was a member of the GTWA when i lived there. it wasn't very productive at the time, because you had people with radically different views trying to come to a consensus on what to do, but it felt better than just 'normal' politics or sectarianism i guess. the truth is that most people have no idea what we should do i think. other than fightback which is just support the NDP.



yeah I feel like the GTWA is nonfunctional, a couple of core members had a big falling out

#110
i went outside the other day to find a small communist party ontario election sign sheepishly placed at the end of my driveway flush against the shed.
#111
catchphrase
#112

stegosaurus posted:

Meanwhile in Utah I've been asked to prepare a presentation for the 10 ppl who show up to revolutionary student meetings. I was about to do a talk on kantorovich but that's not at all interesting to anyone except me so I think im going to pick 4 theories of what the soviet union was completely at random and summarize them. Its cool to discuss philosophy and economics with people irl.

So far I was going to do the Reagan theory (evil empire), the state capitalist theory, bordigas interpretation of the universal capitalist ruling class and its managerial placeholder in the USSR, and the deformed workers state or the psl slash Szymanski brezhnevite line. I think the frso is brezhnevite as well, but, they don't have a official line on it so you can be whoever you want. Allowing competing theories of state capitalism is the first stage of communization.



sweet

the revolutionary student movement here has "communist school" every month or so, last week it was on anti-colonialism & indigenous struggle and the time before was communism & the state. there's usually 10+ people who attend and lots of discussion. the spartacist league and some random truther guy showed up to the one last month & the sparts kept emphasizing what a TRUE marxist position was in opposition to our fanonist peasant-stalinism

#113

futurewidow posted:

yeah I feel like the GTWA is nonfunctional, a couple of core members had a big falling out

oh well.

#114
The rsu has a YouTube channel and there's apparently a guy, who I haven't met yet, who has a lot of video recording stuff. He's on vacation in Brazil atm. Lol. So my talk will probably be recorded and posted.
#115

Crow posted:

I am lf's fyad's Projektor666 and thi s is exactly like the time Jackdaniels posted a thread about tripwire's Haruki flag referencing lamb scam's flag about me (Crow, not projekt0r) and i went in to harass Prospect0r (different user) in team speak with Lain wave (RIP) and WesleyButton (Who is lf's Rorschach) ((RIP)) A d Loinworm dude.



R.I.P. to those who have fallen
IA88AS6Wy_4

#116
the ndp platform is stupid.
#117
Anybody know anything bout the socialist party of ontario? Not in my riding, but I like the idea of an actual leftist party that doesn't initially have the stigma of communism.
#118

Red_Canadian posted:

Anybody know anything bout the socialist party of ontario? Not in my riding, but I like the idea of an actual leftist party that doesn't initially have the stigma of communism.

they are essentially the section of this trotskyist organization . they also are only running a handful of candidates and have no money, they mostly exist on paper. they are run by michael laxer, who is the son of james laxer

i tweeted at them that they should run a left front with the communists next time and they favorited my tweet, which is why i have adopted the honorific "the great unifier"

#119
i forgot to add that that trotskyist organization is the same one that elected kshama sawant in seattle
#120
i got a fundraising letter from the ontario ndp today and the suggested donation amounts are "$2500", "$1000", "$250" and then a shameful "donate what you can" box. i like the shamelessness of asking for $2500.