Ontario budget 2014: Andrea Horwath says NDP voting against budget

Ontario NDP Leader Andrea Horwath said this morning she will not support the minority Liberals' budget, a move that would send the province into a provincial election in June.

"I have lost confidence in Kathleen Wynne and her ability to deliver," Horwath said Friday. "I cannot in good conscience support a government that people don’t trust anymore.

"This budget is not a solid plan for the future. It's a mad dash to escape the scandals. It's time for change. We do not support this government any longer."

not future widow

pretty brave of her. the unions basically screamed for her to support the budget to stop the conservatives from winning, but she's betting that the election will pull the province left.

jeffery posted:

is there a FIST in cannada (klanada)?

i don't know what that means so i'll say yes

Bablu posted:

lol can you post the letter?

i'm too lazy to go hunting but these are the resolutions the social-democrats wanted passed:

1. ONDY Commitments

Whereas the doctrines of Socialism, Leninism, Trotskyism, Stalinism and Maoism run opposed to the NDP and CCF's principles of social democracy and co-operation;
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And whereas much of the history of the party has been ordinary people fighting to define a social democracy outside of the confines of socialist rhetoric, socialist hierarchy and socialist thought control;

And whereas in many countries where the doctrine of Socialism is implemented, human rights are stomped, opposition is crushed and basic human dignity is impugned;

And whereas New Democrats support a co-operative commonwealth in Canada that cannot be accomplished through Socialist hierarchy, Socialist patronage, and Socialist idealogical orthodoxy;

And whereas New Democrats believe that a co-operative commonwealth in Canada can be built through the greater co-operation of peoples at the local level, elevating up in the form of co-operative and non-profit housing, banking institutions, farm production, stores and other units of the economy;

And whereas the doctrine of Socialism's centralization of power will ensure that a social democracy and locally built economy can never have happen;

Be it resolved that we in ONDY commit to the principles of social democracy, in solidarity with generations and generations of CCF/NDPers since the party and movement was founded;

Be it further resolved that we in ONDY condemn the doctrine of Socialism as generations of CCF/NDPers have and hopefully always will.

2. Trotskyism

Whereas it is longstanding tactic of Trotskyists ever since the 1930s to attempt to takeover and hijack social democratic organizations, a tactic called "entryism";
And whereas it is often the case that Trotskyists in ONDY vote as a block, having made their mind up on an issue before discussion occurs, to pursue their goals, where non-invading ONDYers may be more independent in their thoughts or choose to be in solidarity with the ONDY as a whole;

Whereas the tactic of "entryism" can be fatal to an organization, as was the case when the NDP of Australia was taken over and dismantled by the Trotskyists, as detailed in the article "How the Trots Destroyed the Nuclear Disarmament Party" by Peter Myers;

And whereas ONDY encourages the discussion of measures to implement social democratic principles, but does not entertain those that do not have those basic principles of social democracy and co-operation because those viewpoints are not humane and are foreign to the New Democratic Party and its predecessors;
And whereas the doctrines of Socialism, Leninism, Trotskyism, Stalinism and Maoism run opposed to the NDP and CCF's principles of social democracy and co-operation;

And whereas there are many Communist political parties in Canada where Trotskyists can find a home;

Be it resolved that the Ontario New Democratic Youth approves and applauds the decision of the ONDY Executive to de-charter the Toronto Young New Democrats.
Be it further resolved that the Ontario New Democratic Youth will de-charter and dismember all Trotskyist blocks and organizations that may linger in ONDY, and actively prevent the takeover of ONDY conventions and councils.

3. Co-operative Exercises

Whereas we in ONDY believe the social democracy of our CCF/NDP is about local control, democracy, work and human dignity led by an individual sense of responsibility, solidarity and collective love;

And whereas we in ONDY believe this vision of Canada can only happen if citizens begin practicising more collective ways of living, working and playing;
Therefore be it resolved that ONDY conventions and councils include "co-operative" exercises where ONDYites participate and work together to achieve goals.

4. Committee of Social Democrats

Whereas the removal of the doctrine of Trotskyism from ONDY and its Communist centralization of power and poor treatment of people is a great stride toward the resurgence of social democracy and co-operation in ONDY that are the principles of New Democrats of the past, those greatest Canadians;

Whereas ONDYites are eager to explore co-operation and social democracy and to learn of how we can do this in our present society, soon:

Be it resolved that the ONDY convention form a committee of social democrats that will meet to learn about, research and actively do the principles of co-operation and social democracy that were articulated by the founders of the party and adapted over the years by New Democrats.

it's probably worth noting that both the NDP and its predecessor the CCF were founded as explicitly socialist parties and the party is still an active member of the Socialist International. Both Jack Layton (who was leader at the time) and Andrea Horwath (who was provincial leader at the time) have called themselves socialists too.

getfiscal posted:

jeffery posted:

is there a FIST in cannada (klanada)?

i don't know what that means so i'll say yes

FIST is a badas name. Fight Imperialism Stand Together? Sounds like a good name and time dude

Red_Canadian posted:

I went to one of their meetings at a pub. Trotskyists seem like their hearts in the right place, but we had like 20 people there. Start an affinity group and some direct action already, you're not going to get more by talking

was this in t.o or montreal?

babyhueypnewton posted:

sorry but the socialist alternative under the banner of Kshama Sawant is causing the collapse of AmeriKKKan imperialism with the transitional demand of $15 minimum wage, try harder KKKanadian trots

Mr. McClure, I have a craaazy friend who (tactically runs for city councils as a path toward socialism). is he crazy?

http://www.pslweb.org/liberationnews/news/psl-runs-john-beacham-for.html

hahaha yes Timmy, your friend just doesn't understand the food chain

Panopticon posted:

just keep your door open

we cannot stress this enough. this is vital, donald.