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aerdil posted:
sounds like the next big bang theory

like most "high minded" sitcoms it will quickly ditch the psychoanalysis by episode 4 in favor of sexhaving adventures

#322
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.___. ken accusing me of racism oh boy
#323
tardy on these heaters
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Hey theres a certain internet forum you can go to where misogyny and sexism are permissible under the guise of opting in and out of patriarchal social structures at will, maybe check it out see if u can get laid
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aerdil posted:
futurewidow honest question whatd u think of the joke that got me bannered from teh wddp. it seems silly to have read that one devoid of intent unless it is perpetually assumed that everyone outside of whatever safe group is a horrible monster w/ bad intentions & while that can sometimes be understandable it seems to be a very unhealthy way to think



i can't remember it !

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i mean when she literally said i was 'the colour of shit' i could have got pretty offended considering that that's the kind of insult that has been levelled at me in the past but i didnt because its just screen words on an internet and i dont really think futurewidow is a genuine all-out white supremacist. maybe she is iono but i'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt
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'masculinity' as a social role, besides a set of superficial physical characteristics, (e.g. broad shoulders, muscularity, deep voice, etc.), is mostly about asserting social dominance. if you want a 'new masculinity' you have to deal with that and i can't really see a way to do so without emptying masculinity of all its essential characteristics, maybe it's possible, but i've never seen a plausible or even coherent formulation.
#327
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woman of colour stop opppressing me!!!
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Kurdt
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babyfinland posted:
Hey theres a certain internet forum you can go to where misogyny and sexism are permissible under the guise of opting in and out of patriarchal social structures at will, maybe check it out see if u can get laid


is that the one with all the badges

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#330
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deadken posted:
i mean when she literally said i was 'the colour of shit' i could have got pretty offended considering that that's the kind of insult that has been levelled at me in the past but i didnt because its just screen words on an internet and i dont really think futurewidow is a genuine all-out white supremacist. maybe she is iono but i'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt



you know what actually, that's valid and I didn't even think about it when I said it so I apologize. even though we're probs the same skin tone it still wasn't right

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Lessons posted:
'masculinity' as a social role, besides a set of superficial physical characteristics, (e.g. broad shoulders, muscularity, deep voice, etc.), is mostly about asserting social dominance. if you want a 'new masculinity' you have to deal with that and i can't really see a way to do so without emptying masculinity of all its essential characteristics, maybe it's possible, but i've never seen a plausible or even coherent formulation.



yeah its a problem, i dont know exactly how to go about overcoming it, but we must believe it is possible!!

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Lessons posted:
'masculinity' as a social role, besides a set of superficial physical characteristics, (e.g. broad shoulders, muscularity, deep voice, etc.), is mostly about asserting social dominance. if you want a 'new masculinity' you have to deal with that and i can't really see a way to do so without emptying masculinity of all its essential characteristics, maybe it's possible, but i've never seen a plausible or even coherent formulation.

you've clearly never met a hipster?

e: oh i misread that but the point stands that a lot of what people do to assert masculinity involves simple inversions of classically masculine traits

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Kurdt
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asserting social dominance? i dunno sounds kinda stalinist
#334
tardy on these heaters
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deadken posted:

Lessons posted:
'masculinity' as a social role, besides a set of superficial physical characteristics, (e.g. broad shoulders, muscularity, deep voice, etc.), is mostly about asserting social dominance. if you want a 'new masculinity' you have to deal with that and i can't really see a way to do so without emptying masculinity of all its essential characteristics, maybe it's possible, but i've never seen a plausible or even coherent formulation.

yeah its a problem, i dont know exactly how to go about overcoming it, but we must believe it is possible!!



its me, im a non-sexist man. check it out.

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#336
drivel of drunken hags
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feelings were hurt, privilege was evoked. best to move on.
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discipline posted:
asserting social dominance? SOunds like my mOTHER IN LAW A=HAW HAW


wow way to score cheap laughs off a hurtful gender stereotype

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futurewidow posted:

deadken posted:
i mean when she literally said i was 'the colour of shit' i could have got pretty offended considering that that's the kind of insult that has been levelled at me in the past but i didnt because its just screen words on an internet and i dont really think futurewidow is a genuine all-out white supremacist. maybe she is iono but i'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt

you know what actually, that's valid and I didn't even think about it when I said it so I apologize. even though we're probs the same skin tone it still wasn't right



thankyou. although i dont think an apology is even necessary! you didnt mean to be racist, you were just saying words a bit carelessly, whatever. i kinda like you futurewidow even if you hate me or w/e. i make dumb jokes on the internet and thats not something i ever plan to apologise for really but i really hope you believe that my intent isnt to upset or exclude people based on gender

cue mm INTENT DOESNT MATTER

#339
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Groulxsmith posted:
feelings were hurt, privilege was evoked. best to move on.



I hesitated bringing it up in the first place cause of how annoying privilege discourse can be. that said am I supposed to just let everything go all the time without ever speaking up? irl I tend to put up with more than I do online cause I calling people out generally makes them dislike you but after a while .. what choice do you have?

#340
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let's have an ironic discussion about something some guy was telling me about the other day, that is the theory that in every group in women there is an "alpha bitch"
#341
penitent
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thing is i dont think there are essential gender characteristics beyond the strictly biological. at the same time that doesn't mean that theres nothing of value in the idea of femininity/ies, so why could the same not be true for masculinity/ies? masculinity-as-gender-dominance is something that has been imposed on men by a patriarchal society, it is a chain we must break
#342
Kurdt
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hell yes, let's double down on this motherfucking trainwreck
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#344
tardy on these heaters
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Impper posted:
let's have an ironic discussion about something some guy was telling me about the other day, that is the theory that in every group in women there is an "alpha bitch"



why and how do you leave these conversations without being covered in blood is beyond me

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tardy on these heaters
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deadken posted:
thing is i dont think there are essential gender characteristics beyond the strictly biological. at the same time that doesn't mean that theres nothing of value in the idea of femininity/ies, so why could the same not be true for masculinity/ies? masculinity-as-gender-dominance is something that has been imposed on men by a patriarchal society, it is a chain we must break



this is retarded

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#347
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babyfinland posted:

deadken posted:
thing is i dont think there are essential gender characteristics beyond the strictly biological. at the same time that doesn't mean that theres nothing of value in the idea of femininity/ies, so why could the same not be true for masculinity/ies? masculinity-as-gender-dominance is something that has been imposed on men by a patriarchal society, it is a chain we must break

this is retarded



probably, its also true

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#349
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babyfinland posted:

Impper posted:
let's have an ironic discussion about something some guy was telling me about the other day, that is the theory that in every group in women there is an "alpha bitch"

why and how do you leave these conversations without being covered in blood is beyond me

i tend to encourage people to keep talking, being horrified all the while. you hear some truly vile things out there, lemme tell yah

#350
penitent
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you can't, like, own a thread
#351
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deadken posted:
thing is i dont think there are essential gender characteristics beyond the strictly biological. at the same time that doesn't mean that theres nothing of value in the idea of femininity/ies, so why could the same not be true for masculinity/ies? masculinity-as-gender-dominance is something that has been imposed on men by a patriarchal society, it is a chain we must break



hmm hmm

will u guys excuse me i just bought a book on constructivsm and i just realized im posting instead of flippin through it

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deadken posted:

futurewidow posted:

deadken posted:
i mean when she literally said i was 'the colour of shit' i could have got pretty offended considering that that's the kind of insult that has been levelled at me in the past but i didnt because its just screen words on an internet and i dont really think futurewidow is a genuine all-out white supremacist. maybe she is iono but i'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt

you know what actually, that's valid and I didn't even think about it when I said it so I apologize. even though we're probs the same skin tone it still wasn't right

thankyou. although i dont think an apology is even necessary! you didnt mean to be racist, you were just saying words a bit carelessly, whatever. i kinda like you futurewidow even if you hate me or w/e. i make dumb jokes on the internet and thats not something i ever plan to apologise for really but i really hope you believe that my intent isnt to upset or exclude people based on gender

cue mm INTENT DOESNT MATTER


You're a dumb as hell lol

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ken are you aware that, unless i remember incorrectly, future widow is a black person?
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discipline posted:
If you want to have an honest not-ironic discussion about it I'm sure we can get into a lot of cultural referents and historicizations of female social blending but then again I don't think you're lookign for that and if you are go start your thread for the Goldmine

I Would Prefer Not To. though in the moment he started pointing at groups of women and guessing which of them is the "Alpha bitch," based on, body language or something. lmao. this was an expansive, elegant theory, made all the better by the man's state of drunkenness

#355
tardy on these heaters
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The problem with Men is that they're too masculinated, we need to make Lebensraum in female spaces. Colonize the female, Progress Marches On. THey are the Fairer sex after all.

You need to grow up and take it on the teeth like the rest of us, wee one. thats just a fact of life, you have to abandon childhood and become Man. being a man is a terrible thing. but you can be a good man. so do that. its not so bad and women (the only decent thingsi n this world) appreciate it
#356
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they're not essential characteristics but they may as well be that's how far ingrained they are, it requires constant vigilance but sometimes it's just too hard to change who u r
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Tupac posted:
ken are you aware that, unless i remember incorrectly, future widow is a black person?



my momma is black, im more caramel colored

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Femininity and Masculinity are about as real as the protocols of the elders of zion.
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babyfinland posted:
women (the only decent thingsi n this world)

lol Wow. last time i said this i got accused of rampant misogyny. get the fuck outta here

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Tupac posted:
Femininity and Masculinity are about as real as the protocols of the elders of zion.

i have it on good intel that the protocols are actually real. i think they were written by russian monarchists