#41

Crow posted:

i think this concept should be greatly expanded, i see it in so many places besides Vice.



do you have anything in mind? i mean, i don't doubt it.

#42
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#43
where are some good places to read about foreign affairs? i used to read le monde diplo until i realized (maybe i'm wrong?) that most of the good stuff seemed to come from other blogs.
#44
Russia Today can be pretty informative, even though it makes zero pretensions about not being state-sponsored propaganda
#45
i was thinking more in terms of long form, magazine style stuff. i already have a friend who posts RT stuff all the time lol
edit: like, i like the stuff that new left review has on international affairs. are there publications of similar quality and/or length that focus more on international affairs?

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#47
i prefer reading pepe silvia over pepe escobar imo
#48

discipline posted:

well then you're probably going to want to stick with blogs. pepe escobar is still pretty solid. phil greves is a good writer too.


cool thanx
edit: does pepe escobar have all of his stuff in one place or is this going to be that thing where i have to comb lots of different news sources and probably google him every few months like when i want to find out if adolph reed has done anything lately?

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#49

drwhat posted:

babyfinland posted:

drwhat posted:

i have zero concept of what is popular or where people get ideas anymore. vice is a big thing? people pay attention to it seriously?

breaking bad was p good if u havent seen that.

i got the impression it was just a lot of wallowing in the meaninglessness of modernity and i get enough of that from inside my own head



wow well ok fart for a mind dont gotta be snarky with it

#50
pepe escobar writes op-eds hes not much of a journalist anymore
#51

roseweird posted:

trans women by definition desire to live a conception of female experience derived from male experience

kind of a broad generalization you're drawing there with the "by definition" thing, no?

#52

babyfinland posted:

pepe escobar writes op-eds hes not much of a journalist anymore


who are some good journalists to follow?

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#54

c_man posted:

babyfinland posted:

pepe escobar writes op-eds hes not much of a journalist anymore

who are some good journalists to follow?



u cant just walk up to me and ask me questions like this. No Hablo Ingles fucker. $10 i give u the names. Paypal Venmo Western Union

#55
okay never mind then
#56
well if you're born in and treated by others as male growing up its difficult to see how you would get your conception of female experience any other way.
#57

NoFreeWill posted:

well if you're born in and treated by others as male growing up its difficult to see how you would get your conception of female experience any other way.

#58

Backus posted:

I mean way back in its earliest days their Dos and Donts secretly promoted brands that had paid them.



that's epic

#59

Skylark posted:

Backus posted:

I mean way back in its earliest days their Dos and Donts secretly promoted brands that had paid them.

that's epic



hi skylark. im loling at the idea of like a pure journalistic dos and donts untainted by brand loyalty. if ur gonna do somehting might as well get paid for it

#60


hard to believe but i havent watched this n dont want to
#61

babyfinland posted:

Skylark posted:

Backus posted:

I mean way back in its earliest days their Dos and Donts secretly promoted brands that had paid them.

that's epic

hi skylark. im loling at the idea of like a pure journalistic dos and donts untainted by brand loyalty. if ur gonna do somehting might as well get paid for it



hi and thank you but i don't think i have the heart to tell somebody they're a dont

#62

Skylark posted:

babyfinland posted:

Skylark posted:

Backus posted:

I mean way back in its earliest days their Dos and Donts secretly promoted brands that had paid them.

that's epic

hi skylark. im loling at the idea of like a pure journalistic dos and donts untainted by brand loyalty. if ur gonna do somehting might as well get paid for it

hi and thank you but i don't think i have the heart to tell somebody they're a dont


no i mean vice

#63

babyfinland posted:

Skylark posted:

babyfinland posted:

Skylark posted:

Backus posted:

I mean way back in its earliest days their Dos and Donts secretly promoted brands that had paid them.

that's epic

hi skylark. im loling at the idea of like a pure journalistic dos and donts untainted by brand loyalty. if ur gonna do somehting might as well get paid for it

hi and thank you but i don't think i have the heart to tell somebody they're a dont

no i mean vice



oh i misunderstood. but aren't you worried about their integrity as a fashion tastemaker

#64
nope im bad ass
#65
tom and i are going to get the macklemore haircut and then get rich or die trying
#66
i have an idea for a new meme: cats that look like plekhanov. how can i best vertically integrate this
#67
idk man cats are hard to keep still, let alone stacked vertically
#68

Skylark posted:

Backus posted:

I mean way back in its earliest days their Dos and Donts secretly promoted brands that had paid them.

that's epic



Well as a Do finding this out really affected my self esteem so

#69
Patrick Higgins' blog is great, as for journalists uh, Eva Golinger is really good though a lot of it's in Spanish, Black Agenda Report though it's more editorial than reporting I guess, ummmm

maybe this should be its own thread
#70

Backus posted:

Patrick Higgins' blog is great, as for journalists uh, Eva Golinger is really good though a lot of it's in Spanish, Black Agenda Report though it's more editorial than reporting I guess, ummmm

maybe this should be its own thread


i'll do that and probably start off by listing stuff i think is cool just so there's something to talk about/call me an idiot about

#71
http://blackagendareport.com/?q=category/other/ba-radio-commentary = non optional listening
#72

Backus posted:

daddyholes posted:

Backus posted:

it doesn't go into their imperial cheerleading and tour-guide-to-the-Orient style of foreign affairs coverage.

write the article

well maybe, it was gonna be more of an email than an article. i'm honestly pretty far out of the loop on Actual Foreign Affairs ever since I burned out on reading the news a few years back, but maybe that'd be a good way to get reoriented, IDK. A lot of the actual work of uncovering this stuff was done by other people who i follow on twitter/etc. but it might be good to synthesize it.

also on the ®branded #content thing, here is the head of NewsCorp: "Thomson also expected a level of distrust at the rise of native advertising, saying that while the titles under his control are "clearly doing it", caution needs to be taken over the potential impact on editorial quality." It's hilarious to me that Danny Gold said that doesn't happen because Vice has literally done that since day one, I mean way back in its earliest days their Dos and Donts secretly promoted brands that had paid them.



even if its just relying mostly on other peoples legwork having it all in one big thing would be very helpful

#73

getfiscal posted:

tom and i are going to get the macklemore haircut and then get rich or die trying



this is the plan

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#75

getfiscal posted:

and then get rich or die trying



i believe thats called "participating in capitalism"

#76
but shabiha means ghost???
#77
http://acloserlookonsyria.shoutwiki.com/wiki/The_Shabiha:_Ghost_Stories%3F#Etymology_of_the_Term_Shabiha this is interesting
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#79

discipline posted:

is this for real



according to Gawker it is


http://gawker.com/here-is-the-vice-style-guide-1638739250


http://www.scribd.com/doc/240864422/Vice-Style-Guide






haha Whoa ther google, i apprec the quick close but id like for us to get to know each other first

#80
lmao at how its immediately obvious where it came from