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the manifesto feminist proletarian

plz don't make fun of the graphics or I'll die but feel free to critique parts of the 'festo that are underdeveloped

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gas thread ban op
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jk
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Dont Mess With Sucess
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who is this going out to?
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hmmm futurewidow starts posting again right when babyfinland makes an appearance? yeah, like im going to believe youre different people
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discipline posted:

this is really wonderful. how has the reception been?



ppl have been receptive (it spurred a couple other groups in the city into action, I think like two women's anti-imperialist fronts have popped up that were directly inspired by our group) but there's been criticism w/r/t our line on prostitution which we expected

swampman posted:

who is this going out to?



this is going out to women who are already somewhat radicalized, it's an attempt to put together a coherent marxist/proletarian feminist line. we don't intend to hand out our manifesto to random proletarian women though cause that would be alienating. Instead we're hoping to hook ordinary working women thru workshops, discussions and intiatives that relate to women's issues. we wanted to take a firm stance against bourgeois feminism, liberal feminism and identity politics which we feel doesn't relate to the lives of proletarian women

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Mike Nelson here.
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the graphics are good, too. reminds me of a MIM brochure in a very good way.
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ya i thought the graphics were rly good
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http://bit.ly/1Jzhh7M
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the end of page 16 doesn't join up with page 17
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1488 posted:

the end of page 16 doesn't join up with page 17



nooo

discipline posted:

Can I also ask why groups were inspired to start their own instead of join y'all? Like what are the differences in principals?




um part of it is typical leftist disunity. one group was an initiative of the communist party of canada/young communist league who we've been having some semi-public disagreements with lately, whereas the other was a dormant group created by the other maoists in toronto that was re-ignited. there's no reason we won't be working together on certain things tho

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thats a dope logo on the back cover. very nice
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Poronto
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there's no reason to be worried about other groups not necessarily combining as long as common efforts can be combined when appropriate, it's a beautiful line and manifesto that could forge unity of action across so many organizations. i was a little question-marky about eschewing direct involvement in community organization but i realize the point of that decision now, it's disseminatory. literally the only thing i question is whether "pfft" is the best acronym in the world but it doesn't matter, the members of Auckland Regional Socialist Educators seem unperturbed
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Poronto
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realtalk fw i abjure and repent the actual pile of steaming crap i said in the meeting a few months ago
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Fantastico. Curious about one thing though: Why the line about PFG not providing community services on pg 16?
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littlegreenpills posted:

realtalk fw i abjure and repent the actual pile of steaming crap i said in the meeting a few months ago



What did you do, 'tard?

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Poronto
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doesn't really matter, i said a bunch of didactic incomprehensible crap about my thoughts on how to best convince proletarian women and ppl in general that smashing capitalism is the feminest thing not least because i had been very quiet and wanted to open my stupid mouth at least once

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Good shit FW.

minor technical things i noticed:

Pg 1+2 - You put an asterix next to "transpeople", but there does not seem to be an associated footnote.
Pg 4 - I don't see a ending quotation mark for the Epstein quote.
Pg 13 - "They should be places..."
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drivel of drunken hags
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littlegreenpills posted:

doesn't really matter, i said a bunch of didactic incomprehensible crap about my thoughts on how to best convince proletarian women and ppl in general that smashing capitalism is the feminest thing not least because i had been very quiet and wanted to open my stupid mouth at least once



ugh FUCK that was you??

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drivel of drunken hags
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elemennop posted:

Pg 1+2 - You put an asterix next to "transpeople", but there does not seem to be an associated footnote.



tw this next time. thanks.

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Toronto
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littlegreenpills posted:

doesn't really matter, i said a bunch of didactic incomprehensible crap about my thoughts on how to best convince proletarian women and ppl in general that smashing capitalism is the feminest thing not least because i had been very quiet and wanted to open my stupid mouth at least once



i hate the atmosphere of having to talk at least once that small meetings have, mainly because i'm not so good at book reading

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would you consider this manifest a complement to the Juche ideal or simply an introduction for left-minded proletarian womyn?
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aaaa people here know each other and go to each others meetings irl aaaaa
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Poronto
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fleights posted:

littlegreenpills posted:

doesn't really matter, i said a bunch of didactic incomprehensible crap about my thoughts on how to best convince proletarian women and ppl in general that smashing capitalism is the feminest thing not least because i had been very quiet and wanted to open my stupid mouth at least once

i hate the atmosphere of having to talk at least once that small meetings have, mainly because i'm not so good at book reading



*shrug* there wasn't that kinda atmosphere really tho, lots of ppl were quiet and there to learn and develop, it was just me really. anyway end derail

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littlegreenpills posted:

realtalk fw i abjure and repent the actual pile of steaming crap i said in the meeting a few months ago



thats cool, it was kinda awkward but i mean you were arguing with a literal tumblr marxoteen

elemennop posted:

Good shit FW.

minor technical things i noticed:

Pg 1+2 - You put an asterix next to "transpeople", but there does not seem to be an associated footnote.
Pg 4 - I don't see a ending quotation mark for the Epstein quote.
Pg 13 - "They should be places..."



the asterik after transpeople is some dumb pomo bs that was included that I had no control over. it's not a footnote type deal, i have no idea what it is even

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Toronto
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omg the amount of people that live in toronto
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Kurdt
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whats genderless. like an object or like a humanoid being that is outside of human social society and material relation?
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A genderfuck, or gender fuck or gender-fuck, is the conscious or unconscious effort to mock or "fuck with" traditional notions of gender identity, gender roles, and gender presentation which assume that one's identity, role and orientation is determined by one's sex assigned at birth. This activity has also been called genderbending. Traditional notions of gender assume that one will identify, act and appear in accordance with normative values of masculinity and femininity depending on one's biological sex.
Genderfucking can also fall under the umbrella of the transgender spectrum, which includes a variety of individuals, behaviors, and groups that tend to deviate from the traditional gender expectations, although genderfuck and transgender are not synonymous. Trans man Max Wolf Valerio points out that "the conflation of genderfuck Into the transmovement has confused and eroded authentic transsexual voices. Although there's nothing inherently wrong with gender-bending, gender-fuck, and the assorted hyphenated identities becoming common in the queer world, I must ask: What does it really have to do with my life?"
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littlegreenpills posted:

doesn't really matter, i said a bunch of didactic incomprehensible crap about my thoughts on how to best convince proletarian women and ppl in general that smashing capitalism is the feminest thing not least because i had been very quiet and wanted to open my stupid mouth at least once


I have this problem. i actually got into an argument with my girlfriend about education policy and was extremely didactic, in a situation that 1) didn't require didacticism because she knows what she's talking about 2) was completely incorrect anyway even if she were "wrong" somehow

i think it comes from the internet partially, and the attendant need to 'blow someone up' when they disagree with you or lose cred, and partially it comes from my own basic lack of respect for people, and the other part is the lack of interaction I have with like-minded people irl. that's part of the reason why I'm trying to join a party locally, so I have some place to blow off steam, so I have other people to talk to besides nice but extremely conservative people at work and my other friends who are not really political at all. so it isnt this mind-numbing binary of either being effectively silent or screeching and looking like a complete tool. thanks for reading.

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manSplainZ by Dvaid cronenberg.
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mt.real
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stegosaurus posted:

littlegreenpills posted:

doesn't really matter, i said a bunch of didactic incomprehensible crap about my thoughts on how to best convince proletarian women and ppl in general that smashing capitalism is the feminest thing not least because i had been very quiet and wanted to open my stupid mouth at least once

I have this problem. i actually got into an argument with my girlfriend about education policy and was extremely didactic, in a situation that 1) didn't require didacticism because she knows what she's talking about 2) was completely incorrect anyway even if she were "wrong" somehow

i think it comes from the internet partially, and the attendant need to 'blow someone up' when they disagree with you or lose cred, and partially it comes from my own basic lack of respect for people, and the other part is the lack of interaction I have with like-minded people irl. that's part of the reason why I'm trying to join a party locally, so I have some place to blow off steam, so I have other people to talk to besides nice but extremely conservative people at work and my other friends who are not really political at all. so it isnt this mind-numbing binary of either being effectively silent or screeching and looking like a complete tool. thanks for reading.

i understand this, i mostly stay quiet about a lot of things in many situations because it's like all these things just come out of me all at once and i imagine talking to me about these things is like opening one of those snakes in a can and at the end you have the same "i thought these didn't even exist anymore, that wasn't even really funny and just pretty annoying and now there's paper snake everywhere and how do i get it back in the can and this sucks" look on your face

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mt.real
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the graphics are cool. i think it should be trans*people though
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Not Your S.H.I.E.L.D.
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roseweird posted:

who the fuck invented 'genderfuck'



Excuse me but it clearly says "*GENDERF*CK"

which includes

*GENDERFECK *GENDERFICK
*GENDERFACK *GENDERFOCK
*GENDERFYCK *GENDERFRACK
*GENDERFOCKER *LOUIS "GENDERF" CK

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I'm confused by the design, the two-column-per-page layout makes it look like each paragraph is a sort of independent block of text hanging in space. It's distracting and makes it hard to read, especially since the columns aren't justified (and probably can't be without making it look horrible).