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wut a baffling good article
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discipline posted:

and don't even get me started on transwoman's article about how empowering catcalls are.



I don't really see how the fact that the woman is trans has to do with anything or why it was worth mentioning.

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MadMedico posted:

discipline posted:

and don't even get me started on transwoman's article about how empowering catcalls are.

I don't really see how the fact that the woman is trans has to do with anything or why it was worth mentioning.



it could be to do with the author herself foregrounding that and mentioning it may influence her response to it, idk

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anyway, your posts are bad madmedico, off to the doctors i think
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dang
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too many busybodies in the world. people should get real jobs.
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roseweird posted:

MadMedico posted:

I don't really see how the fact that the woman is trans has to do with anything or why it was worth mentioning.

probs because trans women often find catcalling incredibly novel and affirming and since trans women by definition desire to live a conception of female experience derived from male experience it is reasonable to subject transgender experience to considerable scrutiny



that's actually also why they all take pictures wearing knee-high rainbow toe socks

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The juvenile company’s early days are a hazy mix of pud-pulling and boundary-testing, limited in imagination only by an unformed frontal lobe.


lol damn

edit: that article is full of really good owns

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Groulxsmith posted:

that's actually also why they all take pictures wearing knee-high rainbow toe socks



a lot of women do this but since you prefer to stalk transsexuals etc

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discipline posted:

corresponding



poast it

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guess i gotta sub to the baffler now
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no homo <-- vice humour. do _not_ flame or troll. thank u
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daddyholes posted:

Groulxsmith posted:

that's actually also why they all take pictures wearing knee-high rainbow toe socks

a lot of women do this but since you prefer to stalk transsexuals etc



no

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yes, in fact, lol
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your attempt to get me to post pictures of women i know is disgusting and won't work lgp
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discipline posted:

I spent almost a week of my life corresponding with HEAD STAFF WRITER FOR VICE about Syria, wherein he told me I should "travel outside of the United States for perspective" and that I'm on the "wrong side of history" for saying that the US has anything to do with the slaughter in syria



l'olle

anyway here's a comment i left somewhere the other week

This is why I’ve been interested in the way that Vice is aggressively pushing into the mainstream. They are absolutely serious about trying to become the new mainstream media for 20 something/millenials/whatever, though it seems like a lot of times when people read these proclamations they just hear a sort of soda-pop fizzing sound because people are so used to tuning out marketing-speak that they don’t notice when it has content. And at the same time Vice is doing this, it is pushing a model of journalism(?) that is characterized by utter incompetence, total lack of reflection on the role of journalism in society, no knowledge of history even from a few years ago, and especially, using these kind of cartoon-character writer personalities as anchors for your attentional/emotional investment. You’re supposed to trust em because they’re young and live in Brooklyn and say they’re leftists and act like other people who say they’re leftists, so a priori and in their essence they’re On The Left, and that’s exactly how reactionary content gets smuggled in. And of course, Vice’s main financial backer is Rupert Murdoch; meanwhile the CEO of News Corp is explaining that its goal is explicitly to shift to more contemporary styles of infoadvertainment.

On the left people are at least chastened not to call such suspicions “conspiracy theorizing,” but the hand-waving returns in the posture that this kind of analysis is too crass, not theoretical enough, whatever–as if those theories don’t all have to refer back to some kind of concrete process of influence.



I'd been planning to write somethin longer but hte Baffler covered a lot of it, though importantly it doesn't go into their imperial cheerleading and tour-guide-to-the-Orient style of foreign affairs coverage.

In Danny Gold's article on CAR (discipline is that who you were talking to?) he literally says "no one has any real explanation" for why people there are killing each other; it's clear he had no interest in getting beyond meretricious dark-continent spectacle and was content to lean on this lazy "Africans! What's the deal, right?"

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Backus posted:

it doesn't go into their imperial cheerleading and tour-guide-to-the-Orient style of foreign affairs coverage.



write the article

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Backus posted:

soda-pop fizzing sound because people are so used to tuning out marketing-speak


lol

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e: i should be a f*cking political cartoonist! polital cartoon thread vol XXXXXXX incoming
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Backus posted:

I'd been planning to write somethin longer but hte Baffler covered a lot of it, though importantly it doesn't go into their imperial cheerleading and tour-guide-to-the-Orient style of foreign affairs coverage.


this is probably the most important aspect, to me, i think this concept should be greatly expanded, i see it in so many places besides Vice.

Backus posted:

In Danny Gold's article on CAR (discipline is that who you were talking to?) he literally says "no one has any real explanation" for why people there are killing each other; it's clear he had no interest in getting beyond meretricious dark-continent spectacle and was content to lean on this lazy "Africans! What's the deal, right?"


lol

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PBBBUUUUUH. Why are these AFRICANS killing each other??? Who knows??? I'm only a journalist, just asking questions
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Just asking questions *kicks over child* Just asking questions *kicks down frontdoor* Just asking questions *steps on ied* Just asking questions *carpet bombs neighborhood*
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People want Freedom *does a five part series promoting da c.i.a of tripolē* Whell What's going on over here *smokes weed, flys to ukraine* Oh Wow These People Want Freedom *smokes weed, flys around the globe* Wow Freedom: These People Want It Too
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i have zero concept of what is popular or where people get ideas anymore. vice is a big thing? people pay attention to it seriously?
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drwhat posted:

i have zero concept of what is popular or where people get ideas anymore. vice is a big thing? people pay attention to it seriously?



breaking bad was p good if u havent seen that.

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Its not Journalism. Its HBO.
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the best thing about his "youre on the wrong side of history" accusation is that its a tacit admittance hes talking about some kind of media narrative liberal values-led public consensus rather than the objective, known facts about what actually happened in Syria. western journoism in a nutshell


counterculture agitprops who sell out are worse than actual fascists imo
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babyfinland posted:

drwhat posted:

i have zero concept of what is popular or where people get ideas anymore. vice is a big thing? people pay attention to it seriously?

breaking bad was p good if u havent seen that.

i got the impression it was just a lot of wallowing in the meaninglessness of modernity and i get enough of that from inside my own head

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conec posted:

drwhat posted:

i have zero concept of what is popular or where people get ideas anymore. vice is a big thing? people pay attention to it seriously?

yea my classmates mention vice in class as if its a reputable news source



Get these kids to walk through x-ray machines or maybe push them down into a well. Where is the your campus' nearest well?

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conec posted:

drwhat posted:

i have zero concept of what is popular or where people get ideas anymore. vice is a big thing? people pay attention to it seriously?

yea my classmates mention vice in class as if its a reputable news source

wow ok

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well what do you expect from harvard
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I chatted up someone who writes for VICE while hating them, writes things that insult their readership but somehow gets published. They still think it's better than Mother Jones but said VICE was only outfit to ever pull one of their pieces because of corporate sponsor demands and then they ran a joke article about his original piece in its place. FOXNEWSCORP shizz
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daddyholes posted:

Backus posted:

it doesn't go into their imperial cheerleading and tour-guide-to-the-Orient style of foreign affairs coverage.

write the article



well maybe, it was gonna be more of an email than an article. i'm honestly pretty far out of the loop on Actual Foreign Affairs ever since I burned out on reading the news a few years back, but maybe that'd be a good way to get reoriented, IDK. A lot of the actual work of uncovering this stuff was done by other people who i follow on twitter/etc. but it might be good to synthesize it.

also on the ®branded #content thing, here is the head of NewsCorp: "Thomson also expected a level of distrust at the rise of native advertising, saying that while the titles under his control are "clearly doing it", caution needs to be taken over the potential impact on editorial quality." It's hilarious to me that Danny Gold said that doesn't happen because Vice has literally done that since day one, I mean way back in its earliest days their Dos and Donts secretly promoted brands that had paid them.