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how do people who know things feel about so called "feminist" or otherwise woman-oriented porn?
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it always comes back to diaps
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it doesn't really work very well i don't think, it still prioritizes a libidinal gaze that panders to socially constructed desire rather than critiquing it
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c_man posted:

how do people who know things feel about so called "feminist" or otherwise woman-oriented porn?



Marketed towards handmaidens for lotsa high-fivin' with the bros. Can't we all just get along...and *come* together? Erase the hate.

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i dont know what you mean by that
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conec posted:

littlegreenpills posted:

im also wondering if an accelerationist project in terms of ubiquitising scat porn could have progressive value. desensitization is occurring at a rate of knots but we aren't quite there with people literally shitting on each other yet, something that disrupts the progression could literally throw a spanner in the works, if you give an industry an inch it'll take a mile obviously but if it tries to take a mile before it's been given an inch it can provoke disgusted outrage and thus resistance. like the subliminal message would be "this IS porn. this IS what you've been watching all these years"

theres this website called "fetlife" its like a social networking site for perverts ppl post all kind of nasty shit on there like pictures posted by husband nd wife w the wife covered in jizz and several dicks in the frame or just their dick in some bizarre cock ring that squeezes the balls too anyway i went on their trolling around a bit wanted to construct a scat fan/nudist character and diaper enthusiast n i came to find out that the website wont let you discuss "scat" explicitly its really weird
http://thebeautifulkind.com/what-is-this-world-coming-to/
http://houseofvoid.com/2013/10/28/fetlifes-dirty-little-secret/



yeah someone i know got really and inexplicably buttmad over issues of free speech and stuff when fetlife banned the scat content, (while protesting a little too much about how of course they weren't affected personally because poo is nasty, it's the principle of the thing, srsly). apparently the company that handles their credit card payment told them to get rid of the shitting people or they wdn't do business with em no more. anyway the point is, the profit motive maximizes social utility and virtue

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c_man posted:

i dont know what you mean by that



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i love bukkake udon so i prefer to think of it as sprinkling lil bits of tempura on ur lover so yeah
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before i had ever kissed a girl i was at a 7th grade dance, a frumpy young lad, and i went up to a girl i had a crush on who had asked if i would be there a day earlier, and said something deferential rather than asking if she would like to dance like she expected. she slapped me without a word and walked off. that moment has structured my romantic life since.
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conec posted:

u dont enjoy ice cream sundaes lgp?



im not entirely clear what this has to do with anything cones

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c_man posted:

how do people who know things feel about so called "feminist" or otherwise woman-oriented porn?

market-based propaganda, consumer activism


so do you think its any different from e.g. race relations as depicted in the media? tyler perry movies as consumer activism, that kind of thing?

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i dont think of jizz as tempura, i think of the word "bukkake" in terms of sprinkling lil bits of tempura on yummy noodles instead of jizz on a face because all it means is "covered with sprinklings" and if u asked a regular japanese person not a perv otaku thats what they'd usually think of not some gross porn meaning, my friend Mari didn't see what was remotely funny about bukkake udon after all, so i think the chain of association breaks down there. although "cream pie" and "spit roast" have been horribly sullied but the japanese are purer and better than us in every sense
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conec posted:

littlegreenpills posted:

im also wondering if an accelerationist project in terms of ubiquitising scat porn could have progressive value. desensitization is occurring at a rate of knots but we aren't quite there with people literally shitting on each other yet, something that disrupts the progression could literally throw a spanner in the works, if you give an industry an inch it'll take a mile obviously but if it tries to take a mile before it's been given an inch it can provoke disgusted outrage and thus resistance. like the subliminal message would be "this IS porn. this IS what you've been watching all these years"

theres this website called "fetlife" its like a social networking site for perverts ppl post all kind of nasty shit on there like pictures posted by husband nd wife w the wife covered in jizz and several dicks in the frame or just their dick in some bizarre cock ring that squeezes the balls too anyway i went on their trolling around a bit wanted to construct a scat fan/nudist character and diaper enthusiast n i came to find out that the website wont let you discuss "scat" explicitly its really weird
http://thebeautifulkind.com/what-is-this-world-coming-to/
http://houseofvoid.com/2013/10/28/fetlifes-dirty-little-secret/


lol I didn't know that

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there heavy historical promotion of erotica that is horribly degrading and vile has paradoxically kept porn itself solely the domain of societal rejects. everyday female oppression in japan usually just takes the form of women being seen as dumber and less capable of things and not automatically sexually available or anything
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discipline posted:

c_man posted:

discipline posted:
c_man posted:
how do people who know things feel about so called "feminist" or otherwise woman-oriented porn?
market-based propaganda, consumer activism

so do you think its any different from e.g. race relations as depicted in the media? tyler perry movies as consumer activism, that kind of thing?

what are you talking about? spit it out



im trying to figure out what you mean. i dont have a strong opinion so im trying to see what people who have strong opinions and have presumably read or thought about, think about it. "consumer activism" (im not familiar with the term) sounds to me like the idea that if only some underserved markets were properly attended to, then we would have equality or whatever. is that what you mean by it?

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c_man posted:

how do people who know things feel about so called "feminist" or otherwise woman-oriented porn?



Don't know how you understand the phrase "woman-oriented" porn without reference to deeply compromised notions about what that would mean.

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worthless posted:

Don't know how you understand the phrase "woman-oriented" porn without reference to deeply compromised notions about what that would mean.


here again i'm not sure what exactly you mean. is it controversial to claim that most porn is targeted specifically towards men? that seems pretty straigtforward at least to me, so i assume there's something else there that you're trying to point out? i dont claim to be an expert, it's something i've heard of and wanted to ask people about.

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it's a bit like saying the answer to racial oppression is giving black people their very own public bathrooms
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a lot of people who think porn causes violence against women disagree with me that video games cause violence. we should ban both in my opinion. murder simulators like doom are a short hop from gutting hajji.
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and lets not let chess and monopoly off the hook
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this is also incredibly excellent http://rageagainstthemanchine.com/2012/03/15/porn-part-11-the-difference-between-huffing-dong-and-flipping-burgers/

Of those men who come here and make the simplistic and dishonest argument that porn isn’t rape because all work requires us to consent to things we wouldn’t do for free, I would like to ask how much your boss would have to pay you to let him fuck you in the ass while you blow his assistant before he, his assistant, and the janitorial staff ejaculate all over your face.

lol

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a lot of people who think porn causes violence against women disagree with me that video games cause violence. we should ban both in my opinion. murder simulators like doom are a short hop from gutting hajji.


Murdering people is cool.

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Of those men who come here and make the simplistic and dishonest argument that porn isn’t rape because all work requires us to consent to things we wouldn’t do for free, I would like to ask how much your boss would have to pay you to let him fuck you in the ass while you blow his assistant before he, his assistant, and the janitorial staff ejaculate all over your face.


gay men are like union busting scabs in this way

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yeah its pretty obvious that porn is definitely misogynist by its very structure and context even if you avoid the more graphic/violent varieties. it just adds another layer of self-loathing for me beyond the well-instilled catholic guilt i already have about most things sex-related
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Murdering people is cool.

that's a fucked up thing to say online

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i hope to eventually be able to jerk off on self-loathing alone and finally cut out porn, a more sophisticated version of "friction alone"