tpaine posted:
roseweird posted:one might read a socratic dialogue or two , or take an introductory classical civilization course , but a liberal arts degree generally teaches very little of the classics , and besides lykourgos only ever remembers and refers to those parts of the classical canon that are about old men who had the power and fortune to command their own biographies being exalted for exercising power over others. he furthermore rejects the work of all modern interpreters , who might force him to confront the general wrongheadedness of his attempt to make "classicism" mean "my private authoritarianism". his role models are military kings and misogynists like solon. classical liberalism once worshipped these sorts of legalistic and paternalistic idols but today a liberal arts education means an incredibly broad survey of western intellectual history which probably also includes shallow dabblings in some foreign cultures or religions for the sake of diversity , as well as forays into this or that western subculture , etc. this is not a very high quality education , but as you can see from lykourgos's appalling ignorance and general personality , neither is mechanically leafing through the classical canon and salivating on the bits that make you feel like a Big Man
it is absurd to rail against the liberal arts when the entire area of focus you propound as an alternative falls squarely within the the most useless subsection of the field and is emblematic of its most masturbatory excesses, basically
tpaine posted:hhaahah the ladybug guy!
why?!
he's probably on a first name basis with the ladies at jo-ann fabrics after searching high and low for a place that sells face pyramids in bulk and getting the same space alien from mexico look from every assistant manager at michaels
tpaine posted:
roseweird posted:VoxNihili posted:it is absurd to rail against the liberal arts when the entire area of focus you propound as an alternative falls squarely within the the most useless subsection of the field and is emblematic of its most masturbatory excesses, basically
i think you badly misunderstood me
nah, i agree with you mostly, i was just clarifying what i was saying earlier in light of your input. that wasnt a direct response to you
there I solved the thread in one post for you
roseweird posted:Lykourgos posted:no you misunderstood her and you both misunderstood me and basically you're all wrong and dumb okay
what do you think i misunderstood about you
I don't pay much attention to you, so I don't really have a list to give you. I doubt you pay my posts more attention. You're clearly confused, ignorant, and inexperienced about a lot of things, at any rate.
The_Boourns_Identity posted:http://www.foxnews.com/science/2014/03/01/over-100-published-science-journal-articles-just-gibberish/
Some 120 papers published in established scientific journals over the last few years have been found to be frauds, created by nothing more than an automated word generator that puts random, fancy-sounding words together in plausible sentence structures. As a result they have been pulled from the journals that originally published them.
hahaha so let's trust climate change scientists unquestionably
Some 120 papers published in established scientific journals over the last few years have been found to be frauds, created by nothing more than an automated word generator that puts random, fancy-sounding words together in plausible sentence structures.
much like my posts
Lykourgos posted:no you misunderstood her and you both misunderstood me and basically you're all wrong and dumb okay
there I solved the thread in one post for you
what do you think about use of the socratic method in law school instruction, friend?
roseweird posted:*summons ghosts of iwc's and roseweird's great great grandparents, who are all very disappointed at how we are spending our time*
the seance is settled
Olds play it like the past was a time of work, but they sat around drinking strong cider and playing whist like 14 hours a day.
the usual criticism of marketized universities is that they only teach "marketable skills" at the expense of intellectual stuff but this is already too optimistic. the real market-oriented "skill" taught in undergraduate degrees is how to accept this sadism, like the hazing done in a fraternity, since none of the actual work done in nearly all undergrad courses resembles anything even on the market itself.
peepaw posted:punk goes pop
this is so much sicker
alternatively play devils advocate and tell me how MBAs are the future of education and will result in success and brilliance all round
its like saying I don't want to go to dunking doughnuts and eat American delicacies
Lykourgos posted:my wife keeps saying I should get an MBA. What's the best way to make fun of this awful idea; I don't want to attend a 2 year job fair full of children
alternatively play devils advocate and tell me how MBAs are the future of education and will result in success and brilliance all round
do you have a JD? I don't get why you would need an MBA if you already have a JD unless it was needed for corporate law
libelous_slander posted:Lykourgos posted:my wife keeps saying I should get an MBA. What's the best way to make fun of this awful idea; I don't want to attend a 2 year job fair full of children
alternatively play devils advocate and tell me how MBAs are the future of education and will result in success and brilliance all rounddo you have a JD? I don't get why you would need an MBA if you already have a JD unless it was needed for corporate law
Right, I already have a JD and I don't think an MBA has much to do with law enforcement. On the other hand, if I was to leave the legal field I guess it would be helpful, depending on which institution issues the degree.
It would suck so hard going back to school, though.
Lykourgos posted:I don't want to attend a 2 year job fair full of children
wtf why not? that sounds like fun, especially since you have everything and everyone that's existed in the past two milennia. relax, take a bunch of cocaine and reap the rewards of capitalism until you either die of a drug overdose or can buy your own island and restart classical sparta by recruiting a bunch of middle-aged ex-marines with ptsd to follow you around with assault weapons.
TG posted:you should try and get appointed to the bench. judge seems like a proper position for a learned and highborn man such as yourself. also, there are probably very few positions outside of criminal law available to people who have experience solely in criminal law
I'm way too young and inexperienced to be appointed to the bench; judges should be elderly, cowled gentlemen with wooden staves and long white beards. Give me another 30 years. That's not to say there aren't a lot of terrible judges, but that is just a mark against America rather than a sign that I'm an ideal candidate. I'd sooner support someone else above me than put myself forward right now.
I'm not looking for another job right this instant, things have been p great at work lately, but in this office everything can change quickly. I think a good next step would be in-house compliance counsel, or some sort of civil litigator. Or just leave the legal field altogether for some government, political, or academic position. Wouldn't mind being a professor in China.
