#1
theres twice as many speculative/unsold empty homes sitting useless as tehre are poor freezestarving dudes on the streets and for that the elite must be guillotined when the time comes
#2
is there a website that keeps track of empty houses so squatters know where to go?

that would be cool.
#3

tsinava posted:

is there a website that keeps track of empty houses so squatters know where to go?

that would be cool.



http://www.homestarrunner.com/

#4
in the US the ratio is five to one

https://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/more_vacant_homes_than_homeless_in_us_20111231
#5

HenryKrinkle posted:

in the US the ratio is five to one

https://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/more_vacant_homes_than_homeless_in_us_20111231

i think the way they came up with that number is compared the total number of housing vacancies (this is not the same as empty houses) with an estimate of the total number of people who experienced at least a few nights without owning or renting their own place (long-term homelessness is a much smaller number). i don't think these comparisons are all that useful.

#6
maybe many the homeless people prefer being homeless?
#7

Ironicwarcriminal posted:

maybe many the homeless people prefer being homeless?


This is the case in Miami and Portland. This is also purely anecdotal experience.

#8

Ironicwarcriminal posted:

maybe many the homeless people prefer being homeless?


This is the case in Miami and Portland. This is also purely anecdotal experience.

#9
OP's argument is a concern troll used to justify racist assimilation policies towards Roma.
#10
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#11

roseweird posted:

there isn't usually a lot of free space in any major u.s. cities and i can't imagine its much different in e.u. so if there are a lot of vacant homes , i can't help but imagine a lot of them are in far flung , deteriorating suburban developments built by speculators, sold, foreclosed on, and left to rot. sso yeah you could propose resettling the homeless in lonely dilapidated mcmansions and levvittown stretches if you wanted... i'm sure they'll be okay on their own there right?



well that's not what i proposed, i just wanted to point out the useless waste of construction on the one hand and the lack of equitable distribution on the other, but other than that what you say doesn't really go for europe, at least not hte part i live in. there was a huge squatters movement here in the 70s and 80s to claim precisely empty urban buildings (though they were less private homes and more large tenements and office buildings). i seldom see empty homes in the countryside, it's mostly the downtowns that have large empty offices and apartments.

#12

MindMaster posted:

roseweird posted:

there isn't usually a lot of free space in any major u.s. cities and i can't imagine its much different in e.u. so if there are a lot of vacant homes , i can't help but imagine a lot of them are in far flung , deteriorating suburban developments built by speculators, sold, foreclosed on, and left to rot. sso yeah you could propose resettling the homeless in lonely dilapidated mcmansions and levvittown stretches if you wanted... i'm sure they'll be okay on their own there right?



well that's not what i proposed, i just wanted to point out the useless waste of construction on the one hand and the lack of equitable distribution on the other, but other than that what you say doesn't really go for europe, at least not hte part i live in. there was a huge squatters movement here in the 70s and 80s to claim precisely empty urban buildings (though they were less private homes and more large tenements and office buildings). i seldom see empty homes in the countryside, it's mostly the downtowns that have large empty offices and apartments.



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#14
there are a near infinite number of potential posting accounts and yet the rhizzone refuses to even momentarily open registration to the throngs of poor, accountless lurkers aimlessly roaming our information superhighways
#15

Superabound posted:

there are a near infinite number

subject-verb agreement, and, it's difficult for a quantity of physical things to be "near" infinity. see me after class.

#16
you can't just go sticking random people into empty homes, that would be ANARCHY
#17
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#18

Panopticon posted:

MindMaster posted:

roseweird posted:

there isn't usually a lot of free space in any major u.s. cities and i can't imagine its much different in e.u. so if there are a lot of vacant homes , i can't help but imagine a lot of them are in far flung , deteriorating suburban developments built by speculators, sold, foreclosed on, and left to rot. sso yeah you could propose resettling the homeless in lonely dilapidated mcmansions and levvittown stretches if you wanted... i'm sure they'll be okay on their own there right?



well that's not what i proposed, i just wanted to point out the useless waste of construction on the one hand and the lack of equitable distribution on the other, but other than that what you say doesn't really go for europe, at least not hte part i live in. there was a huge squatters movement here in the 70s and 80s to claim precisely empty urban buildings (though they were less private homes and more large tenements and office buildings). i seldom see empty homes in the countryside, it's mostly the downtowns that have large empty offices and apartments.



thanks for that, yeah it was much the same movement where i live, they managed to set up a few fairly big riots against the stupid queen's coronation and some other evil things and for that the government hounded them all the way into the 90s when they seemed to have mostly disappeared.

#19
yo dutch boy, what's it like being dutch/living in the netherlands? also, why in amsterdam do people in the outdoor seating part of cafes sit facing the street like it was a row at a theater?
#20

swampman posted:

it's difficult for a quantity of physical things to be "near" infinity.



you can do it put your back into it

#21
Coronations aren't evil, hope that lifts the leftist veil covering your eyes
#22
yeah i wouldnt call it evil. it's gone a bit more melodramatic over the years but no way near the extent of home and away or hollyoaks
#23
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#24
in london a lot of the empty homes are multi-million pound speculative builds sold to investors in china and qatar because the average london property accrues more value in a year than the average london resident actually earns and london property is increasingly becoming a global reserve currency. capitalism is cool as hell folks
#25
if you want to make a lot of money these days my advice is to be a large house
#26
maybe homeless people should stand on their hands and knees and arch their backs and advertise themselves as a studio apartment
#27
mustang

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#28

The EU has twice as many vacant homes as there are homeless people



not surprising considering the extremely small number of homeless compared to the number of houses

#29

The EU has twice as many vacant homes as there are homeless people



not surprising considering the extremely small number of homeless compared to the number of houses

The EU has twice as many vacant homes as there are homeless people



not surprising considering the extremely small number of homeless compared to the number of houses

#30

The EU has twice as many vacant homes as there are homeless people



not surprising considering the extremely small number of homeless compared to the number of houses

The EU has twice as many vacant homes as there are homeless people



not surprising considering the extremely small number of homeless compared to the number of houses

The EU has twice as many vacant homes as there are homeless people



not surprising considering the extremely small number of homeless compared to the number of houses

#31

The EU has twice as many vacant homes as there are homeless people



not surprising considering the extremely small number of homeless compared to the number of houses2314

#32
blinkandwheeze really, all deleting my posts does is make me post moar
#33
mustang you should draw more and post it here

political cartoons and stuff
#34
why do you like being this forum's pet right wing chimp that smears shit on the wall every few? i'm a fan but i also fear for your dignity
#35
actually im the only person here who isn't far right. socialism is an oppressive pro-capital ideology

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#36
mustang what's your favorite kind of biryani
#37

it is me. from another side of life, mostly a dark side wich i couldn`t resist because they had biryani
#38

Ironicwarcriminal posted:

maybe many the homeless people prefer being homeless?



i talked two a few folks in skid row in LA once - besides being told to leave by a couple folks (apparently people were talking about me for the few minutes I was around) - someone said that people are there because they don't want to be seen/found.

#39
also the sex life seems to be pretty good for many there
#40

guidoanselmi posted:

also the sex life seems to be pretty good for many there

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