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i couldnt remember if there was an old gun thread, so i decided to just make this one

i recently purchased my first firearm - a mossberg 500 pump action 12 gauge shotgun, with 28 inch ventilated rib barrel, a 6 shell capacity, and wood stock. ill mostly be using it for sport shooting, clay pigeons and the like, but it stands ready to be used in defense of my self, pets, and property. its obviously not as effective a weapon for violent revolution as a kalashnikov, but it will do in a pinch

next i plan on getting a pistol of some sort, probably a makarov if i can find one cheap

who else has guns? or are you all a bunch of liberals who are too afraid to exercise your basic human rights?
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Im one of those liberals who wouldnt post on the internet about getting a gun to possibly use in violent revolution
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swampman im unfamiliar with the laws of the greatest city on the planet, is it even legal to own a gun in nyc?

thats unfortunate conec, people mock proponents of the second amendment, but the government has concocted a number of silly reasons to deprive folks of firearms, like having been convicted of a crime of domestic violence, even something like harassment
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this thread is so heat omg
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TG posted:

swampman im unfamiliar with the laws of the greatest city on the planet, is it even legal to own a gun in nyc?

handguns are fucking illegal as fuck, long guns are also super illegal but slightly less so (i could take steps to get a permit for the latter, they would never give me a permit though). if you're rich or a cop or ex-cop you can have a gun, that's about it. to be clear i think its great that handguns are illegal, i dont think the cops should have them either. cops should have crappy wet .22 rifles from a filthy boy scout firing range and be required to shoot from the prone position

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swampman posted:

TG posted:

swampman im unfamiliar with the laws of the greatest city on the planet, is it even legal to own a gun in nyc?

handguns are fucking illegal as fuck, long guns are also super illegal but slightly less so (i could take steps to get a permit for the latter, they would never give me a permit though). if you're rich or a cop or ex-cop you can have a gun, that's about it. to be clear i think its great that handguns are illegal, i dont think the cops should have them either. cops should have crappy wet .22 rifles from a filthy boy scout firing range and be required to shoot from the prone position



that seems similar to the situation in dc, except a somewhat recent scotus ruling made outright bans illegal, thereby forcing the district to allow its citizens to own guns. of course, now its possible to apply for a permit through the one (1) licensed dealer. oh and they must be registered with mpd

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http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/02/08/us-usa-florida-shooting-dunn-idUSBREA161X220140208?feedType=RSS&feedName=domesticNews

(Reuters) - A black teenager shot dead by a middle-aged white man in Florida after an argument over loud rap music, was unarmed and never threatened his assailant, a court heard on Friday.

In testimony that centered on events leading up to the November 23, 2012, shooting, three friends of the 17-year-old victim, Jordan Davis, testified they were caught by surprise when Michael Dunn, a 47-year-old software engineer, opened fire on their SUV at a Jacksonville gas station in north Florida.

Moments before the shooting, one of the teens Tevin Thompson, 18, said he heard Dunn ask: "Are you talking to me?" He then said he saw Dunn pull out a 9 mm pistol, turn toward Davis and fire.

Dunn is being tried in state court on one count of first-degree murder, three counts of attempted first-degree murder and one count of firing a deadly missile into an occupied vehicle. He faces life in prison, if convicted.

The deadly expletive-laced altercation began at a gas station, where Davis and three male friends had stopped on a night out mall hopping and hoping to meet girls.

The driver of the SUV, Tommie Stornes, 19, wanted to buy cigarettes, as well as gum, because Davis said it might help with the girls.

"You all's breath stink," Thompson said Davis told them, smiling in a rare moment of humor.

The case has drawn comparisons with the prosecution of George Zimmerman in the death of Trayvon Martin in Florida in 2012. In both cases, the victims were black teens killed by men who said they believed their lives were in danger.

In opening statements on Thursday, prosecutors said Dunn overreacted to loud music coming from the SUV and could have avoided a confrontation. The defense maintained Dunn was justified in using deadly force under the state's "Stand Your Ground" self-defense law.

State prosecutor John Guy recounted how the argument broke out after the teens pulled into the gas station in a red Dodge Durango. Dunn and his fiancée, Rhonda Rouer, stopped at the same gas station store after attending the wedding of Dunn's son, and parked their car next to the Durango.

The music was so loud, the defense said, that Dunn asked the teens to turn it down. He only opened fire after seeing what looked like the barrel of a gun or a lead pipe through the back passenger window, the defense said.

One of the other teens in the car, Leland Brunson, 18, testified on Friday that Davis did not have a weapon in his hand. Brunson said Davis pointed at Dunn with his right hand as he was talking to him, and his left arm was across the back of the seat.

At one point toward the end of the argument, Davis had a cell phone in his right hand, he said.

Police found no weapon in the Durango, although Dunn's attorney said in his opening statement that the teens had time to discard any weapon before police arrived.

Thompson told the court the cars were so close he was face-to-face with Dunn and would not have been able to open his car door to get out.

The music was so loud he did not hear Dunn ask the teens to turn it down, although he saw him mouth the words: "Turn your music down .... I can't hear myself think."

When asked to describe how Dunn appeared, Thompson replied: "A little angry and upset."

Thompson told prosecutors he didn't see or hear Davis threaten Dunn, but he did keep talking to him. At one point, Thompson reached over and used driver's controls to roll up Davis' car window to about three inches from closing, but the teen kept jawing with Dunn.

"When did you first see the gun?" Guy asked Stornes. "Pointing at me," the teen replied.

"What was your reaction?" Guy asked.

"To try to get away?" he answered. "I remember hearing glass shattering ... I was in a panic."

The prosecution said the first three bullets entered the Durango's rear passenger door in a tight cluster, passing through the metal and entering Davis' body, ripping through his liver and shredding an aorta in his chest. The next three bullets struck the front passenger door, where Thompson was sitting, along the length of the door from the handle to the door hinge, according to a photo shown in court.

Stornes backed the SUV out of the gas station and gunned it into an adjacent strip mall, where he stopped. He called everyone's name. "Everyone answered but Jordan," he said. "He was gasping for air."

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i live in a state with some of the most relaxed firearm restrictions in the nation. the day you turn 18 you can same day purchase any long rifle or shotgun with no background check or registration. we don't have an assault weapons ban, you just need a permit which is pretty easy to get, and you don't need a permit to sell between private individuals. you can also open carry. the midwest is pretty cool imo.
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everybody i know owns at least one gun
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i live in a town where the state senator was recalled because she supported gun control measures in response to the batman movie theater shootings. she was replaced by a former deputy police chief. the county is considered a democratic stronghold
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i thought they kill people in florida for first degree murder? guess old times there really are not forgotten.
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i own a sig 522 and mosin nagant (which a roommate had personally modded to take a scout scope). my girlfriend says if we get married i have to get rid of em. guns or the girl. plz choose for me LF...
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TG posted:

swampman im unfamiliar with the laws of the greatest city on the planet, is it even legal to own a gun in nyc?



dunno but fwiw http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonald_v._Chicago

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guidoanselmi posted:

TG posted:

swampman im unfamiliar with the laws of the greatest city on the planet, is it even legal to own a gun in nyc?

dunno but fwiw http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonald_v._Chicago



i assume that theyve enacted measures similar to dc where its technically possible to own one but incredibly difficult on a pragmatic level

as for your gf situation, you just need to convince her of the many benefits of gun ownership, such as protecting ones family and loved ones, and the fact that they are very safe if kept responsibly

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just lie to her that you'll throw them away, then get married and tell her to "try and take them from me and see what happens"
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then later, "try and divorce me and see what happens." guns are fucking awesome
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i hava an sks. that i've never fired
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don't mess with swampman
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stegosaurus posted:

i hava an sks. that i've never fired



who can blame you, with the price of ammunition these days

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I have a thousand rounds of golden tiger that I bought at the same time lol. I think I was going to start collecting but never did and nobody I know shoots so I never ended up taking it to the range or wherever. I guess its an investment now since the price of everything is going so hogwild
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just registered for a safety course + exam this weekend. turns out it's pretty easy to import guns here from the usa so why not?

thanks op. this is the year i get buff and buy a gun and a motorcycle
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i own several guns, but ive vowed to only use them to defend God, Capitalism, and The American Way
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swampman posted:

then later, "try and divorce me and see what happens." guns are fucking awesome



shell get half his guns

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Bablu posted:

just registered for a safety course + exam this weekend. turns out it's pretty easy to import guns here from the usa so why not?

thanks op. this is the year i get buff and buy a gun and a motorcycle



buying guns and growing guns and gunning your engine. 2014 sounds like it wil lbe magical

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roseweird posted:

i'd love one of those little stun guns that are so smooth and compact you could just palm the thing and keep it hidden. possession of one tho is illegal (tho just a minor misdemeanor on par w possession of cannabis) in ny and pretty much the entire northeastern u.s., so i don't know where to get one. so i figured this forum full of people who regularly express their desire to make violent war on the u.s. government is probably a safe place to ask about illegal weapons

is bear spray illegal too?

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go to a state with relaxed gun laws and just bring it back to NY. unless somebody is looking for it, it isn't likely you'll get caught lol
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just check out the stun gun armory, roseweird: http://www.stungunarmory.com/mini-stun-guns/page-2/