#81
Dont Mess With Sucess
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getfiscal posted:

hmm the australian youth work visa for canadians is for up to 30 and i'm turning 33 in a few months. you also need to have $5000 in the bank so you don't become a moocher. no thanks. germany is up to 35 and support funds are $2750. i'll just become fluent in german in a year and a half.

That's right, set unrealistic goals for yourself with no solid timeline, that will delay change for sure

#82
Mike Nelson here.
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swampman posted:

getfiscal posted:

hmm the australian youth work visa for canadians is for up to 30 and i'm turning 33 in a few months. you also need to have $5000 in the bank so you don't become a moocher. no thanks. germany is up to 35 and support funds are $2750. i'll just become fluent in german in a year and a half.

That's right, set unrealistic goals for yourself with no solid timeline, that will delay change for sure

that was the joke.

#83
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you can learn german, man and become a german man
#84
UNUSUALY COOL
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lol i bet australian coins are all weird and have like a fur covered turtle biting a queen on them
#85
UNUSUALY COOL
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that post was to c_man. I didnt want to call him out but there it is.
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cars posted:

lol i bet australian coins are all weird and have like a fur covered turtle biting a queen on them


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the $1 coin is twice as big as the $2 it's stupid.

it's cool though if you fold a $5 note with the queen on it in the right way, it looks like a fish sucking a dick
#88
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as for the 'odd one out', it's the platypus at the bottom left, being the only one out of the 6 who lives in water
#89
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c_man posted:

whenever iwc tosses two coins and they both come up the same he silently congratulates himself that he has seen past the probabilist orthodoxy



great so techno-climate-lab-dwelling fetishists only need a few coins to indulge in their mystical games? sounds good to me, we can redirect the rest of their funding towards actually helping people

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daddyholes posted:

that post was to c_man. I didnt want to call him out but there it is.


thank you

Ironicwarcriminal posted:

great so techno-climate-lab-dwelling fetishists only need a few coins to indulge in their mystical games? sounds good to me, we can redirect the rest of their funding towards actually helping people



i know they dont have education in australia (i guess tehy just ship you to a mine once you turn 15?) but probability and statistics are entirely fundamental in any field of research that could possibly have direct relevance to anyone's lives. if you want to be legitimately mad at people misusing statistics and fudging data to get what they want you should look at a field that has actual financial rewards for people who will do so (at least on the research end), specifically medicine. and the point isnt that medicine as a whole is a useless field full of quacks and opportunists, there is definitely good research being done, and its still usually better than random chance which is more than can be said for any of the alternatives.

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Wow, try getting a graphic that shows all the coin denominations next time. Much fail.
#92
Poronto
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c_man posted:

field of research that could possibly have direct relevance to anyone's lives



predicting iwc will claim this exact phrase as an oxymoron

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probably, it wouldnt surprise me if he was an anti-vaccine person too
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c_man posted:

probably, it wouldnt surprise me if he was an anti-vaccine person too



i've got no beef at all with vaccination programs as encouraging Autism amongst potential competitors is a sound evolutionary strategy.

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roseweird posted:

Ironicwarcriminal posted:

techno-climate-lab-dwelling fetishists



have you considered writing in a private journal a fictional erotic encounter between you and a climatologist. i think you might find it therapeutic.



a) the internet is my private journal, welcome!

b) I like my interpersonal erotic encounters to involve a level of trust, so climatologists are out

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#98
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well as i'm sure you know it's fun to break taboos, and the infallibility of Science plus the supposed incorruptibility of it's practitioners is something we're all just meant to accept. Scientists can be as venal, self-interested, greedy and duplicitous as any politician or businessman but people seem to have a real problem with that idea.
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political car tune
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iwc you'll like this.

global warming strikes Atlanta, GA:
http://imgur.com/gallery/woBtl





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libelous_slander posted:

iwc you'll like this.

global warming strikes Atlanta, GA:
http://imgur.com/gallery/woBtl







Thailand just had 3 months of record cold too.

And yet when it's hot here in summer it's apparently proof positive of catastrophic global warming!

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roseweird posted:

.....your troll is annoying.....



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#104
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engaging in meaningful conversation on a topic of genuine importance



my problem is that where i come from this means having a pop-ideological commitment to 'Climate Change' as the final showdown of the last few decades culture war. There are so many people so heavily invested in all this that discussing the numbers is almost moot, but i've been told again and again and again with truckloads of condescension over the past 15 years that the Science has been Settled.

So no i'm not really arguing with anyone here (apart from c_man who gets mad hysterical) except to say that climatology appears to be about on par with economics as far as Sciences go.

Computers can't predict the future nor fully explain our world.

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#107
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Ironicwarcriminal posted:

engaging in meaningful conversation on a topic of genuine importance

my problem is that where i come from this means having a pop-ideological commitment to 'Climate Change' as the final showdown of the last few decades culture war. There are so many people so heavily invested in all this that discussing the numbers is almost moot, but i've been told again and again and again with truckloads of condescension over the past 15 years that the Science has been Settled.

So no i'm not really arguing with anyone here (apart from c_man who gets mad hysterical) except to say that climatology appears to be about on par with economics as far as Sciences go.

Computers can't predict the future nor fully explain our world.



the point is not that science is some sort source of perfect truth, the point is that its basically the best conceivable way of actually getting good information about regularities of the world that we live in. its also unique in that if you dont actually commit fraud it doesnt matter how much of a shithead you are, you'll still get results that work. they might be immediately followed up by much better data/analysis that invalidates your conclusion but thats why science works.

#108
sup b*tch
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Ironicwarcriminal posted:

well as i'm sure you know it's fun to break taboos, and the infallibility of Science plus the supposed incorruptibility of it's practitioners is something we're all just meant to accept. Scientists can be as venal, self-interested, greedy and duplicitous as any politician or businessman but people seem to have a real problem with that idea.



this is some truth. i often argue with my bro who does biochem about this. people seem to be unable to understand that the scientific method is just a lens for looking at the world, and while it's pretty good at what it does, it's still a product of humanity, and as such is just as susceptible to human weakness as anything else.

#109
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Ironicwarcriminal posted:

engaging in meaningful conversation on a topic of genuine importance

my problem is that where i come from this means having a pop-ideological commitment to 'Climate Change' as the final showdown of the last few decades culture war. There are so many people so heavily invested in all this that discussing the numbers is almost moot, but i've been told again and again and again with truckloads of condescension over the past 15 years that the Science has been Settled.

So no i'm not really arguing with anyone here (apart from c_man who gets mad hysterical) except to say that climatology appears to be about on par with economics as far as Sciences go.

Computers can't predict the future nor fully explain our world.



i will consistently tell you to fuck off with your paranoiac wailing, forever

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innsmouthful posted:

this is some truth. i often argue with my bro who does biochem about this. people seem to be unable to understand that the scientific method is just a lens for looking at the world, and while it's pretty good at what it does, it's still a product of humanity, and as such is just as susceptible to human weakness as anything else.


this is like saying that vaccinations are just as much a ritualistic practice as praying for someone to be healed.

#111
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hey man, my perspective on life is that homeopathy is as valid a medical treatment as any *family member dies of treatable disease*
#112
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my body is made of cells? that sounds like bourgeois liberal ideology to me! ill have none of that!
#113
political car tune
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if you think about it communism is like a big organism and we are just it's component cells
#114
political car tune
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ever since the registration change it makes all these double posts
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c_man posted:

my body is made of cells? that sounds like bourgeois liberal ideology to me! ill have none of that!



lysenkoism ftw!

#116
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hey guyz if we stop paying attention to iwc when he pulls out his boring tired old gimmick then maybe just maybe hell stop doing it and we could go back to thinking of him as a cliche aussie instead of a weak ass troll (and yes i mean weak ass-troll)
#117
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Boring Troll
#118
Poronto
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iwc is a good troll but he should diversify from the climate thing
#119
Poronto
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iwc trolls of past present and future:

- abortion is a cipher for slow ethnic cleansing
- immigration stuff
- climate change
- TRPF not actually real
- sex work is unironically empowering? (too many extra-rhizzone libs agree for this to work imo)
- homosexuals do statistically have more HIV and abuse more children than other subpopulations
- earth is flat
#120
chickeon
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So called simulations of neural networks (artificial neural networks) have extremely little to do with the actual functioning of neurons and will never tell us anything useful about them. Protein sequencing, folding etc are infinitely more important and don't deserve to be compared to Eripsa level shit like that

also i really hope IWC was kidding about hte vaccine thing bc at least normally he's semi-consistent in his trolling but the anti-vaccine movement is modern vulgar mysticism par excellence and clashes pretty hard with his previous objections to climate models