moosetang, youre arguing against a phantom. the zzone is filled with liberals now, none of whom believe in the revolutionary science of marxism-leninism
I'd actually prefer that people here were Leninists. Leninists are harmless and just discredit the left. It's the reasonable adult democrats who do the most damage.
aerdil posted:ho hum fum let me respond earnestly to wikipedia articles filled with sources from anti-communist UK and American historians who simply rehash old nazi propaganda
You're totally right aerdil! There's no physical evidence the Berlin Wall ever happened.
aerdil posted:mustang youre probably the most boring troll to ever harass the 'zone. far more boring than coneslammer, more boring than even deafbypills. i commend you for such an accomplishment.
we need to get maggotmaster back so he can demand apologies from all of us for perceived slights
http://english.pravda.ru/russia/politics/09-06-2006/81793-communist_party-0/
The world communist movement is currently facing a major scandal. The relations between the Russian and the French communist parties have been practically ruined. The reason of the conflict lies in the negative attitude which the leader of the Russian communists, Gennady Zyuganov, expressed against the recent gay pride parade in Moscow.
The outcome of the “free love parade” in Moscow is history now. Young communists and patriots violently attacked the homosexuals and defamed them. Delegates of the French Communist Party, who took part in all events organized by the Moscow gay movement, did not hesitate to express their reaction to that.
The French communists harshly reproached their Russian colleagues of being homophobic and betraying the Marxism-Leninism ideology. The Socialistic Party of France (the country’s second largest party) supported the communists of France too.
Unlike for the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, the struggle for social justice implies the protection of class interests, as well as people’s rights and freedoms, including the right to choose a sexual orientation.
That is why the French communists described the Russian Communist Party as a homophobic and anti-communist organization. A member of the political bureau of the French communist organization Richard Sanchez said that they simply could not make up with such an idea. “It is nonsense for European communists. Being a communist and a homophobe at the same time is so typical of the Communist Party of Russia,” said he.
Another spokesman for the French communist party said that the CPRF was a non-communist party, which still had the communist rhetoric, but betrayed the ideals of Marxism.
5tdftgdgdfgd posted:
5tdftgdgdfgd posted:if you support communism you are pro-rape
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_war_crimes
Stalin responded to a Yugoslav partisan leader's complaints about the Red Army's conduct by saying, "Can't he understand it if a soldier who has crossed thousands of kilometers through blood and fire and death has fun with a woman or takes some trifle?"
I believe Quind has already covered this topic sufficiently
5tdftgdgdfgd posted:I just found this. Communism vs gay rights? Rhizzone decides.
http://english.pravda.ru/russia/politics/09-06-2006/81793-communist_party-0/
The world communist movement is currently facing a major scandal. The relations between the Russian and the French communist parties have been practically ruined. The reason of the conflict lies in the negative attitude which the leader of the Russian communists, Gennady Zyuganov, expressed against the recent gay pride parade in Moscow.
The outcome of the “free love parade” in Moscow is history now. Young communists and patriots violently attacked the homosexuals and defamed them. Delegates of the French Communist Party, who took part in all events organized by the Moscow gay movement, did not hesitate to express their reaction to that.
The French communists harshly reproached their Russian colleagues of being homophobic and betraying the Marxism-Leninism ideology. The Socialistic Party of France (the country’s second largest party) supported the communists of France too.
Unlike for the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, the struggle for social justice implies the protection of class interests, as well as people’s rights and freedoms, including the right to choose a sexual orientation.
That is why the French communists described the Russian Communist Party as a homophobic and anti-communist organization. A member of the political bureau of the French communist organization Richard Sanchez said that they simply could not make up with such an idea. “It is nonsense for European communists. Being a communist and a homophobe at the same time is so typical of the Communist Party of Russia,” said he.
Another spokesman for the French communist party said that the CPRF was a non-communist party, which still had the communist rhetoric, but betrayed the ideals of Marxism.
thanks for this post. im going to use it to convert all the social conservatives i know to Stalinism
5tdftgdgdfgd posted:Don't get me wrong. It probably sucked if you worked all your life and savings were destroyed in hyperinflation in 1991. But at least people now have access to things like internet and indoor plumbing.
if only the Soviet Union had collapsed in rural Mississippi 
2) infinite free college
3) actually existing good mayonnaise
4) trains
5) rent * guy mouthing 'its socialized housing' *
stegosaurus posted:5) rent * guy mouthing 'its socialized housing' *
Thirty eight million nine hundred and twenty thousand two hundred minutes
Thirty eight million nine hundred and twenty thousand two hundred moments without schism
Thirty eight million nine hundred and twenty thousand two hundred minutes
How do you measure actually existing socialism
in full employment, in bushels of wheat
littlegreenpills posted:in vaccines, in toilets, in housing, in indoor plumbing
in full employment, in bushels of wheat
At least we're comparing objective measures of the level of development, which was admittedly behind that of most of the OECD, than whining about religious freedom or the status of minorities.
5tdftgdgdfgd posted:if you support communism you are pro-rape
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_war_crimes
Stalin responded to a Yugoslav partisan leader's complaints about the Red Army's conduct by saying, "Can't he understand it if a soldier who has crossed thousands of kilometers through blood and fire and death has fun with a woman or takes some trifle?"
this reminds me, did anyone ever figure out those statistics for deaths caused by western capitalist states using the same logic that is used to get death tolls for soviet russia?
c_man posted:aren't there health issues associated with using unprocessed person poop directly in agriculture? or does the peat moss deal with that?
Probably the right thing to do would be grow bamboo, hemp/marijuana, and I believe poplar trees are a common choice as a biological filtration system. But, there are plenty of working peat moss toilets that dump directly back into gardens in the spring, after a year of accumulation and composting. Probably the owners don't tend to have very greasy or meaty diets..
c_man posted:aren't there health issues associated with using unprocessed person poop directly in agriculture? or does the peat moss deal with that?
*squats* lets leave that one to the hrrrnnngggh eggheads in Washington
swampman posted:c_man posted:
aren't there health issues associated with using unprocessed person poop directly in agriculture? or does the peat moss deal with that?
Probably the right thing to do would be grow bamboo, hemp/marijuana, and I believe poplar trees are a common choice as a biological filtration system. But, there are plenty of working peat moss toilets that dump directly back into gardens in the spring, after a year of accumulation and composting. Probably the owners don't tend to have very greasy or meaty diets..
about what size community is that for? do you know how scalable that sort of thing is?
c_man posted:aren't there health issues associated with using unprocessed person poop directly in agriculture? or does the peat moss deal with that?
if human waste is anaerobically cold-composted (which happens in most composting latrines), then parasites and bacterial spores can be present in the finished compost, so it's risky
but if you take the trouble to aerobically compost the waste the heat generated by decomposer organisms is sufficient to kill pathogens
http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2011/03/02/why-medicaid-is-a-humanitarian-catastrophe/
Patients on Medicare were 45% more likely to die than those with private insurance; the uninsured were 74% more likely; and Medicaid patients 93% more likely. That is to say, despite the fact that we will soon spend more than $500 billion a year on Medicaid, Medicaid beneficiaries, on average, fared worse than those with no insurance at all.
ilmdge posted:5tdftgdgdfgd posted:if you support communism you are pro-rape
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_war_crimes
Stalin responded to a Yugoslav partisan leader's complaints about the Red Army's conduct by saying, "Can't he understand it if a soldier who has crossed thousands of kilometers through blood and fire and death has fun with a woman or takes some trifle?"I believe Quind has already covered this topic sufficiently
There are leftwing rape apologists too???
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c_man posted:really? how hot do those get? i thought you needed like 160F to start killing bacteria.
they get pretty hot (as high as 120F if done right) which is more than enough to kill 99.9% of pathogens over the course of several weeks of composting
one day i hope to live in a place that lets me turn my own dung into dirt and then grow vegetables with that dirt. all life is a hideous excrescence and as a proper lacanian i will fully embrace that fact
5sdsghgh posted:Yes c_man, *proceeds to not post about poop*
wtf, answer his poop question
c_man posted:5tdftgdgdfgd posted:if you support communism you are pro-rape
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_war_crimes
Stalin responded to a Yugoslav partisan leader's complaints about the Red Army's conduct by saying, "Can't he understand it if a soldier who has crossed thousands of kilometers through blood and fire and death has fun with a woman or takes some trifle?"this reminds me, did anyone ever figure out those statistics for deaths caused by western capitalist states using the same logic that is used to get death tolls for soviet russia?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_famines
Unless you count ancient Egypt as capitalist or whatever the only famine on the same order of magnitude to the communist ones was Ireland, which happened because of the Corn Laws and taxes used to pay for welfare.
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