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deadken posted:

if you don't want the climate to change you're a reactionary. since when was leftism about maintaining the status quo, politically, economically, or meteorologically?



the climate is always changing

how much of this is due to humans is completely unknowable at present

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hi
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Ironicwarcriminal posted:

deadken posted:

if you don't want the climate to change you're a reactionary. since when was leftism about maintaining the status quo, politically, economically, or meteorologically?

the climate is always changing

how much of this is due to humans is completely unknowable at present

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penitent
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anthropogenic climate change is real and it should be embraced as part of the essential dialectic of nature and man
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sonic gifs (as good as they are, tyvm) are not a substitute for magical predictive powers
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penitent
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in my next piece for jacobin magazine i'm going to finally answer the question: what's up with selfies
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deadken posted:

it should be embraced as part of the essential dialectic of nature and man



same but with deez nuts and ur gob m8

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penitent
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rude
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political car tune
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*edit* had to go to the hospital after cutting myself on that edge

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Ironicwarcriminal posted:

c_man posted:

Ironicwarcriminal posted:
c_man posted:
capitalism is capitalist, no way. but that doesn't mean the problem is a fake one. its the same as in medicine. pharmaceutical companies are entirely corrupt but to say that scientific medicine is purely a scam and cannot be rehabilitated is nonsense.
'climate science' cannot be 'rehabilitated' because humans, even given all our technology, cannot predict the future

sure they can, i can predict with near perfect accuracy which words you will see on your screen on the other side of the world. human have been predicting the motions of the planets for millenia. we can predict more or less what will happen when we try and explode something so hard it goes to the moon. to a lesser extent we can predict how some types of life will react to some stimuli and how weather will act over a short interval, but these systems are difficult to analyze effectively with current methods and the lines of inquiry are only about half a century old.

yeah, same with the stockmarket: make me ten million dollars by next week, GO

good old predictability, empiricism, science, equilibrium, i guess they solve everything and anything huh



a predictive economics is much harder than a predictive climatology for reasons similar to the reasons why climatology is hard. it involves modelling a system which depends extremely sensitively on factors far removed from the measured or controlled variables, in addition to the fact that results from economics can change the way economics works (a much stronger expression of unforeseen feedbacks and human intervention in climatology) so a strongly predictive economics is orders of magnitude harder than a strongly predictive climatology.

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c_man posted:

Ironicwarcriminal posted:

c_man posted:

Ironicwarcriminal posted:
c_man posted:
capitalism is capitalist, no way. but that doesn't mean the problem is a fake one. its the same as in medicine. pharmaceutical companies are entirely corrupt but to say that scientific medicine is purely a scam and cannot be rehabilitated is nonsense.
'climate science' cannot be 'rehabilitated' because humans, even given all our technology, cannot predict the future

sure they can, i can predict with near perfect accuracy which words you will see on your screen on the other side of the world. human have been predicting the motions of the planets for millenia. we can predict more or less what will happen when we try and explode something so hard it goes to the moon. to a lesser extent we can predict how some types of life will react to some stimuli and how weather will act over a short interval, but these systems are difficult to analyze effectively with current methods and the lines of inquiry are only about half a century old.

yeah, same with the stockmarket: make me ten million dollars by next week, GO

good old predictability, empiricism, science, equilibrium, i guess they solve everything and anything huh



a predictive economics is much harder than a predictive climatology for reasons similar to the reasons why climatology is hard. it involves modelling a system which depends extremely sensitively on factors far removed from the measured or controlled variables, in addition to the fact that results from economics can change the way economics works (a much stronger expression of unforeseen feedbacks and human intervention in climatology) so a strongly predictive economics is orders of magnitude harder than a strongly predictive climatology.



yet people make money on the stockmarket while climatologists make failed predictions

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Ironicwarcriminal posted:

yet people make money on the stockmarket while climatologists make failed predictions



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivor_van_Heerden

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SariBari posted:

Ironicwarcriminal posted:

yet people make money on the stockmarket while climatologists make failed predictions



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivor_van_Heerden



1 Hurricane activity area =/ the earth's climate and ocean systems

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i'm just havin a laugh bruv, this dead gay forum will always defer to AUS on the matter. you're doing your part. mods please change iwc's av to capt planet at this time.

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Ironicwarcriminal posted:

c_man posted:

Ironicwarcriminal posted:

c_man posted:

Ironicwarcriminal posted:
c_man posted:
capitalism is capitalist, no way. but that doesn't mean the problem is a fake one. its the same as in medicine. pharmaceutical companies are entirely corrupt but to say that scientific medicine is purely a scam and cannot be rehabilitated is nonsense.
'climate science' cannot be 'rehabilitated' because humans, even given all our technology, cannot predict the future

sure they can, i can predict with near perfect accuracy which words you will see on your screen on the other side of the world. human have been predicting the motions of the planets for millenia. we can predict more or less what will happen when we try and explode something so hard it goes to the moon. to a lesser extent we can predict how some types of life will react to some stimuli and how weather will act over a short interval, but these systems are difficult to analyze effectively with current methods and the lines of inquiry are only about half a century old.

yeah, same with the stockmarket: make me ten million dollars by next week, GO

good old predictability, empiricism, science, equilibrium, i guess they solve everything and anything huh



a predictive economics is much harder than a predictive climatology for reasons similar to the reasons why climatology is hard. it involves modelling a system which depends extremely sensitively on factors far removed from the measured or controlled variables, in addition to the fact that results from economics can change the way economics works (a much stronger expression of unforeseen feedbacks and human intervention in climatology) so a strongly predictive economics is orders of magnitude harder than a strongly predictive climatology.

yet people make money on the stockmarket while climatologists make failed predictions



them making money doesn't mean they know why they got it

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SariBari posted:

i'm just havin a laugh bruv, this dead gay forum will always defer to AUS on the matter. you're doing your part. mods please change iwc's av to capt planet at this time.



i loved that show: and i'm glad it existed before AGW hysteria so it could profile a range of actually existing and quantifiable ecological issues like deforestation

although i was always a bit cut that they had somebody from each continent except australia

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are people earnestly arguing with iwc
#257
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australia is part of asia, "oceania" is a white supremacist myth
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#259
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and yet, preshishley when the form is basically dead, that, I claim, is precishely when it is at its most alive.
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Lessons posted:

I have AIDS.



condolences

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#263
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Tpaine did you hear that thing where somebody amplified the part of the kuuenbu freakout that sounds silent and most of it is him screaming "GIVE ME THE FUCKING MIC" over and over?
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How would I know that??
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niagra falls has frozen over for the first time in decades

GLOBAL WARMINGF
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Not Your S.H.I.E.L.D.
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Kurdt
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i tried to cook a little
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discipline posted:

I hope to spend more time on the forums when I get a new job that doesn't literally eat me alive



well make sure labor is fully organized before you leave, we dont want any half measures

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sup b*tch
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gyrofry posted:

i tried to cook a little



hope it wasn't some faggot with a dog

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man those evil unions and communists literally EATING people, what savage CANNIBALS
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corey "of "fail aids" fame"
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conec posted:


5

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corey "of "fail aids" fame"
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wtf... is this forum really dead. whats the videogame offsite again
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political car tune
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corey posted:

wtf... is this forum really dead. whats the videogame offsite again

corn

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corey "of "fail aids" fame"
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is there still a place in the world for this exgoon