glomper_stomper posted:cock-sucking (not in a good way)
is Tim Wise the reverse racism of cock-sucking
way to advance the vanguard there buddy roe
getfiscal posted:fresh off the presses: an article response by our very own mccaine
http://www.thenorthstar.info/?p=11339&utm_content=buffer20ea4&utm_source=buffer&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Buffer
this writing truly sucks
mccaine------->a big dweeb, bad at making anyone care about his unnecessarily long winded ideas
can we get a nonwhite male getting in on this? here, http://escalatingidentity.wordpress.com/2012/04/30/who-is-oakland-anti-oppression-politics-decolonization-and-the-state/
acephalousuniverse posted:mark fisher---->cool, good at writing
mccaine------->a big dweeb, bad at making anyone care about his unnecessarily long winded ideas
Did you read the articles
truly mindblowing rhetorical skill
acephalousuniverse posted:he's right and theres nothing wrong with that paragraph??
thug lessons is a wddp anime trot hth
acephalousuniverse posted:compared to the mccaine one where he writes 50,000 highly autistic words about how the vampire metaphor doesnt exactly perfectly line up if you extend it into every aspect of the vampire myth that's ever been found in fiction and start trying to cram them in too with a lot of really embarrassing and robotic attempts at hu-mor
Okay so you didnt read the articles, gotcha.
acephalousuniverse posted:god shut up. i dont even care if you agree with me shut up
no idea who you are but i can see i pissed off the twitter circle-jerk. good
This is why Fisher’s foregrounding of class is disengenous: Like Dean, Wark, and Heartfield, he could give fuck-all about exploitation, and like those people — and most of the traditional (socialist, Leninist) left — he doesn’t even pretend to have a theory of political economy. Averring the primacy of class and calling for a return to Marx when you don’t care about questions of value and exploitation is silly. Class becomes an empty signifier, and since it’s notational rather than material, it becomes an identity in the same sense Fisher thinks of gender and race. “Intersectional/identitarian” politics at least address exploitation and attempt something like a material analysis of the state. It recognizes, like thoughtboy295 says above, that identities are produced by capital and the state. It takes a lot of hubris to declare the class identity is superior and more essential than those things. Especially when you can’t be bothered to show how class is produced.
SariBari posted:who was this
This is why Fisher’s foregrounding of class is disengenous: Like Dean, Wark, and Heartfield, he could give fuck-all about exploitation, and like those people — and most of the traditional (socialist, Leninist) left — he doesn’t even pretend to have a theory of political economy. Averring the primacy of class and calling for a return to Marx when you don’t care about questions of value and exploitation is silly. Class becomes an empty signifier, and since it’s notational rather than material, it becomes an identity in the same sense Fisher thinks of gender and race. “Intersectional/identitarian” politics at least address exploitation and attempt something like a material analysis of the state. It recognizes, like thoughtboy295 says above, that identities are produced by capital and the state. It takes a lot of hubris to declare the class identity is superior and more essential than those things. Especially when you can’t be bothered to show how class is produced.
thats definitely The Ass of Damocles
One of the Movember mantras is: “Real men, growing real moustaches, talking about real issues”. The slogan is as misguided as its campaign: Movember is divisive, gender normative, racist an...............
What is the difference here? We are not simply considering an arbitrary configuration of facial hair, but one that had particular, imperial connotation to British men of our grandfathers' generation and currently has a separate cultural valence for men from certain ethnic groups. Moustaches, whether or not “mo-bros” mean theirs to be, are loaded with symbolism. We often wonder how our fathers (both life-long moustached men) must feel each November, when their colleagues' faces temporarily resemble theirs, and are summarily met with giggles and sponsor-money. No doubt they draw the obvious conclusion, that dovetails with many other experiences of life as an immigrant: there are different rules for white faces.
Further, the inclusivity of Movember deserves examination. For one, only men (and even then, only some men) can grow a moustache. The decision to focus on the moustache to raise awareness of men's health issues might seem like an apposite one (though there's no obvious relationship between moustaches and cancers), but it reinforces the regressive idea that masculinity is about body chemistry rather than gender identity, and marginalises groups of men who may struggle to grow facial hair, such as trans-men. Ironically, Movember also excludes the very men it is supposed to uplift; many men who have undergone radiotherapy or surgery to treat testicular cancer are rendered “hypogonadal” and are therefore unable to grow facial hair.
grade-A Vampirism
Class identity is not taken seriously or treated with the same respect or as having the same authority as other identities. It floats around in identitarian analysis, but its import has not actually been internalized within the actually-existing practitioners of its prescriptions. This is because class is marginalized in this tradition. Poor working class people don’t participate in the tradition, have not had any real effect on the literature in the tradition, and are still not actually respected in the tradition, even when the theory as written says they should be.
I can see how the Russel Brand story will end up playing out for me as well. As I get advanced degrees and ideally a job that puts me occupationally out of the poor working class, any claim I do have to that identity (which is already not respected in any case) will fade year by year until it is just discarded altogether by those who might not like what I have to say about poor people and their issues. This sort of treatment creates the double-bind that ensures a permanent erasure of poor working class voices. If you grow up in the identity and remain in it, your access to any of these discussions is extremely limited. If you grow up in the identity and become educated enough to access these discussions, you no longer get to claim the identity.
this is a good response.