HenryKrinkle
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Most Americans’ views not favorable to atheists, Muslims
When asked to rate their feelings for atheists and Muslims, fewer than one-third of U.S. adults fell on the favorable side of the scale.
As part of its 2013 American Values Survey, the Public Religion Research Institute asked respondents to use a 1 to 100 scale, with 100 being the most favorable, to rate how they feel about various groups.
Twenty-nine percent rated atheists 51 or higher, while 27 percent rated Muslims above 50.
Muslims received an average rating of 42.4, ranking them second-from-last on the list, just below atheists but above communists. Christians received the highest average rating, 74.6.
Average ratings for various groups:
Christians: 74.6
Jews: 67.8
Catholics: 64.8
Gay people: 56.8
Immigrants: 55.8
Atheists: 43.0
Muslims: 42.4
Communists: 26.1
Researchers say the Sept. 21 to Oct. 3 online survey of 2,317 adults has a margin of error of plus or minus 2.5 percentage points.
here are the full results:
http://publicreligion.org/site/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/AVS-Report-Topline-FINAL.pdf
a whopping 9% of respondents gave Communists a favorability rating of 51 or higher. the revolution is clearly near.
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i can confirm that i'm very unpopular
thirdplace
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i'm a little popular, but i'm also quite polite, which means i doesn't bring up communism very much
gastarbeiter
gastarbeiter
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the people have spoken, time to rebrand myself as a jew
Panopticon
Panopticon
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"no man it's not communism, it's social gospel. throw out the moneychangers."
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Finally my chance to rate Jews
Computer_Jones
Computer_Jones
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how did an athiest communist muslim become president then
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This is the type of survey where a statistically significant percentage of the respondents thought "this is bullshit" and did straight zeroes except gays at 69 and Muslims at 100, while affecting a massive lisp and an Arab accent to fuck with the survey caller.
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wow, all the groups that are attacking/have attacked our most cherished cultural institutions are unpopular, what a shock.
the "non-religious" are about as popular as gay people though. thats good? i think
the "non-religious" are about as popular as gay people though. thats good? i think
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DID I START LET’S PLAY?
People who like my videos tend to take it as a given, and people who hate my videos take it as the opposite. The truth is, it’s come up enough in the past six (nine?) years that I guess should address it, but…
The whole question is a lose-lose for me. If I stake out ownership of it, I look like a douchebag who takes the whole thing too seriously. But if I don’t, I seem hypocritical because a lot of people purport it and I don’t really deny it.
Recently, someone pointed out to me that DSPGaming is now claiming authorship of Let’s Play as a concept, and a podcast (which I won’t link to because theirs is the 10000th video game podcast out there, and I know of 9999 better ones) is saying I’m a chump for ever claiming it.
Truthfully, it’s not an easy yes/no answer, so let’s start with…
1. I Did Not Invent The Term “Let’s Play”
I don’t have dates, screenshots, or any sort of evidence of this, but the closest I can find in forums memory is that one day, on the Something Awful forums, some goon made a thread titled “Let’s Play Oregon Trail.” He invited other goons to join the wagon and five random forum members (or their namesakes) made the virtual trip across country.
I don’t think I’d ever seen the thread myself, but I’d heard it was actually pretty fun in a cutesy way; seeing forum members die of dysentery, etc. The first LP meme sprang from it: “Ford the river!”
The reason “Let’s Play” is kind of a misnomer (nowadays, it’s really “watch me play”) is that the Oregon Trail LP harkened back to a time where the person playing the game would actually attempt to include the audience. It was actually “let us play” and I think 95% of YouTube LPers don’t even know why it’s called that.
I’ll reiterate that this is hearsay; but it’s something prevalent enough on the forums that I give it credit.
But if you want proof positive that, at the very least, Let’s Play started on the Something Awful forums, you can check the dates and links to the original threads in the Let’s Play Archive. You won’t find earlier LPs anywhere else… depending on if you count one other thing I’ll mention later.
2. How I Got Credit for Starting Video Let’s Play
The first VLP I know of, that is a complete playthrough of a video game with running commentary provided throughout, was mine of The Immortal:
Why a screenshot first before a link to the actual post? Because this thread has been archived on Something Awful which means you need $20 to read it ($10 for a forums account and $10 for Archives access.)
If you think this has been doctored, please feel free to find someone who has SA forums archive access to confirm. Modern forum stylesheets and buttons apply to archives (I took this screenshot tonight), which is why you see buttons that weren’t available in 2007 on the old post. Again, you can probably find someone who can confirm it, and the good old Let’s Play Archive backs me up. In fact, they give me a day’s head start and date it Jan. 4, 2007.
(This is because The Immortal was originally a screenshot LP, but I had the idea for the videos as supplements. Lo and behold, people preferred the video, so I switched to that.)
So Jan 5, 2007. That is the first VLP. If you have an earlier one, I am fine handing over this ridiculous crown.
3. Why some think Super Metroid Was The First VLP.
People liked The Immortal VLP, but it wasn’t super popular. Meanwhile, another goon named Dr. Doji Suave had started a screenshot LP of Super Metroid. He’d abandoned it, and people started downvoting the thread.
I hadn’t played Super Metroid in forever, and I’d liked making The Immortal videos, so I started making videos in his thread and asking goons for help, since I was terrible at it. The response was fairly overwhelming. People sent me maps, gave me gameplay tips, made fun of my terrible reflexes, and would go out of their way to submit images of items I’d missed, etc.
I started my own thread entitled “Let’s Play Super Metroid (Now Under New Management - Video LP)” and this time, VLP caught on. (I think Immortal was the better of the two.) I managed to work out some Kaillera netplay stuff that Zorak had taught me, and combined with Skype, Super Metroid was not only the second VLP, but the first to feature guests. You could barely hear them because I had no clue what I was doing with audio, but there they were.
A funny thing? A lot of people liked the idea, but the Games forum of Something Awful got flooded with Video Let’s Play soon after and a lot of other people were annoyed by it. One goon no joke told me I’d “revolutionized LP” and then 2 weeks later told me I’d “ruined it.”
Anyway, since VLP was easier to make than screenshot LPs, tons of people started doing it in the Games forum, other posters were sick of it, and the mods created the Let’s Play subforum, which I now moderate.
4. Why I Shy Away From the Subject
Maxwell Adams (Stud_Bagel at the time) of the Freelance Astronauts did a VLP of Majora’s Mask. He asked me to guest on it, early on. It was his first (and one of the first) VLP.
I’ll admit to being a poor guest, but Maxwell threw me with a question like this - I’d quote it but I can’t stand to hear my voice from back then, so I skipped around a bunch and couldn’t find it.
"Well, you invented this whole shenanigans with that Metal Gear strategy guide." (explained in a bit)
"Yeah, I guess I did. It’s all my fault. Sorry about that!"
(I could swear the conversation started with me denying it until he brought up the strategy guide, but you’re free to listen and see if I got it wrong.)
I tried to play it off like a joke, and I did later make another reference to “starting LP” again in the video. At the time, though, even people who liked VLP thought it was dick of me to claim ownership of the whole concept (that is screenshot LP and Let’s Play proper.) It was brought up in a joke forum (YCS), so I was in a position where I couldn’t really explain myself - it was an off-the-cuff remark, and I could’ve phrased it better. I just let it go.
Now over the years, it’s come up time and again, but from that incident, I don’t generally talk about it. Until now. SO YES YOU ARE SEEING HISTORY MADE!!!
5. How I Get Credit for Inventing LP as a Whole
It’s this. Starting August 25, 2004, I did a fully commented playthrough of Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake for the MSX using screengrabs and HTML tables. In later years, people - who probably want to attribute authorship of LP as a concept to me - describe it as “a proto Let’s Play” or “the first Let’s Play”. It’s not named that, and I don’t know if it “counts.” I don’t even know what “counts” means.
I’ll leave it at this: If you want to count it, and say I invented LP? That’s fine, but realize that “Let’s Play” is a very vague, nebulous sort of concept and giving me sole authorship of the concept is unfair to the many, many people who contributed to it and refined it.
If you don’t want to count it, that’s fine too. Either way:
The Something Awful Forums invented Let’s Play. I don’t know which single person could be pinpointed for it, but they defined the initial concept. Even if you count Metal Gear 2, I will say that Vlaphor’s “I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream” Let’s Play was the first one that really drew people (including myself) to the concept on SA, and really defined what LP was - and still should be - all about : that is, introducing people to video games they may not be aware of, for better or worse.
6. What Doesn’t Count
The podcast I mentioned earlier also claims authorship of LP because one guy claims to have VHS recorded a video game and shown his friends in middle school.
Uh, why would that count?
Hell, I recorded game footage a couple times in my youth, too. I think I even have a DV of Midnight Club 2 with my friend (fuck you, the netplay was awesome.) But anyone can say they recorded anything. If anyone has a VLP that predates mine, and they’ve got a timestamp on an Internet post, hey, you win, go nuts.
Until then, I guess I win? And the prize is still nothing, right? We’re clear on that?
7. My “Authority” Over Let’s Play
This is something else I get shit for: who the hell am I to say you should or shouldn’t do an LP in a certain way?
Well, really, I’m no one. That’s why I don’t do it.
Seriously.
The only “authority” I have is on the Something Awful Let’s Play forum, where, like fucking all video game forums!, there are rules and I have to enforce them. Furthermore, I do strive to keep the level of Let’s Plays on the forums high calibre. I want you to come to SA LP to see the best of the best.
Retsupurae is a thing I do to make funny videos so jerks can laugh. Some of the jokes are throwaways meant to make you laugh; and yeah, I do think others do hit the mark in terms of what I think makes a good LP. (Example: Don’t read onscreen text out loud.)
But if you want to make just a fun video where you dick around with a video game, that’s fine. I can’t stop you, and generally, I wouldn’t like to.
I do think you know the point where you’re LPing a game because you want to show it off… and the point where you have an HD Capture Device and the LP is just an excuse to play a game that you want to anyway. Generally speaking, the latter case is typically just hoping your fans eat whatever you shit you give them.
People who like my videos tend to take it as a given, and people who hate my videos take it as the opposite. The truth is, it’s come up enough in the past six (nine?) years that I guess should address it, but…
The whole question is a lose-lose for me. If I stake out ownership of it, I look like a douchebag who takes the whole thing too seriously. But if I don’t, I seem hypocritical because a lot of people purport it and I don’t really deny it.
Recently, someone pointed out to me that DSPGaming is now claiming authorship of Let’s Play as a concept, and a podcast (which I won’t link to because theirs is the 10000th video game podcast out there, and I know of 9999 better ones) is saying I’m a chump for ever claiming it.
Truthfully, it’s not an easy yes/no answer, so let’s start with…
1. I Did Not Invent The Term “Let’s Play”
I don’t have dates, screenshots, or any sort of evidence of this, but the closest I can find in forums memory is that one day, on the Something Awful forums, some goon made a thread titled “Let’s Play Oregon Trail.” He invited other goons to join the wagon and five random forum members (or their namesakes) made the virtual trip across country.
I don’t think I’d ever seen the thread myself, but I’d heard it was actually pretty fun in a cutesy way; seeing forum members die of dysentery, etc. The first LP meme sprang from it: “Ford the river!”
The reason “Let’s Play” is kind of a misnomer (nowadays, it’s really “watch me play”) is that the Oregon Trail LP harkened back to a time where the person playing the game would actually attempt to include the audience. It was actually “let us play” and I think 95% of YouTube LPers don’t even know why it’s called that.
I’ll reiterate that this is hearsay; but it’s something prevalent enough on the forums that I give it credit.
But if you want proof positive that, at the very least, Let’s Play started on the Something Awful forums, you can check the dates and links to the original threads in the Let’s Play Archive. You won’t find earlier LPs anywhere else… depending on if you count one other thing I’ll mention later.
2. How I Got Credit for Starting Video Let’s Play
The first VLP I know of, that is a complete playthrough of a video game with running commentary provided throughout, was mine of The Immortal:
Why a screenshot first before a link to the actual post? Because this thread has been archived on Something Awful which means you need $20 to read it ($10 for a forums account and $10 for Archives access.)
If you think this has been doctored, please feel free to find someone who has SA forums archive access to confirm. Modern forum stylesheets and buttons apply to archives (I took this screenshot tonight), which is why you see buttons that weren’t available in 2007 on the old post. Again, you can probably find someone who can confirm it, and the good old Let’s Play Archive backs me up. In fact, they give me a day’s head start and date it Jan. 4, 2007.
(This is because The Immortal was originally a screenshot LP, but I had the idea for the videos as supplements. Lo and behold, people preferred the video, so I switched to that.)
So Jan 5, 2007. That is the first VLP. If you have an earlier one, I am fine handing over this ridiculous crown.
3. Why some think Super Metroid Was The First VLP.
People liked The Immortal VLP, but it wasn’t super popular. Meanwhile, another goon named Dr. Doji Suave had started a screenshot LP of Super Metroid. He’d abandoned it, and people started downvoting the thread.
I hadn’t played Super Metroid in forever, and I’d liked making The Immortal videos, so I started making videos in his thread and asking goons for help, since I was terrible at it. The response was fairly overwhelming. People sent me maps, gave me gameplay tips, made fun of my terrible reflexes, and would go out of their way to submit images of items I’d missed, etc.
I started my own thread entitled “Let’s Play Super Metroid (Now Under New Management - Video LP)” and this time, VLP caught on. (I think Immortal was the better of the two.) I managed to work out some Kaillera netplay stuff that Zorak had taught me, and combined with Skype, Super Metroid was not only the second VLP, but the first to feature guests. You could barely hear them because I had no clue what I was doing with audio, but there they were.
A funny thing? A lot of people liked the idea, but the Games forum of Something Awful got flooded with Video Let’s Play soon after and a lot of other people were annoyed by it. One goon no joke told me I’d “revolutionized LP” and then 2 weeks later told me I’d “ruined it.”
Anyway, since VLP was easier to make than screenshot LPs, tons of people started doing it in the Games forum, other posters were sick of it, and the mods created the Let’s Play subforum, which I now moderate.
4. Why I Shy Away From the Subject
Maxwell Adams (Stud_Bagel at the time) of the Freelance Astronauts did a VLP of Majora’s Mask. He asked me to guest on it, early on. It was his first (and one of the first) VLP.
I’ll admit to being a poor guest, but Maxwell threw me with a question like this - I’d quote it but I can’t stand to hear my voice from back then, so I skipped around a bunch and couldn’t find it.
"Well, you invented this whole shenanigans with that Metal Gear strategy guide." (explained in a bit)
"Yeah, I guess I did. It’s all my fault. Sorry about that!"
(I could swear the conversation started with me denying it until he brought up the strategy guide, but you’re free to listen and see if I got it wrong.)
I tried to play it off like a joke, and I did later make another reference to “starting LP” again in the video. At the time, though, even people who liked VLP thought it was dick of me to claim ownership of the whole concept (that is screenshot LP and Let’s Play proper.) It was brought up in a joke forum (YCS), so I was in a position where I couldn’t really explain myself - it was an off-the-cuff remark, and I could’ve phrased it better. I just let it go.
Now over the years, it’s come up time and again, but from that incident, I don’t generally talk about it. Until now. SO YES YOU ARE SEEING HISTORY MADE!!!
5. How I Get Credit for Inventing LP as a Whole
It’s this. Starting August 25, 2004, I did a fully commented playthrough of Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake for the MSX using screengrabs and HTML tables. In later years, people - who probably want to attribute authorship of LP as a concept to me - describe it as “a proto Let’s Play” or “the first Let’s Play”. It’s not named that, and I don’t know if it “counts.” I don’t even know what “counts” means.
I’ll leave it at this: If you want to count it, and say I invented LP? That’s fine, but realize that “Let’s Play” is a very vague, nebulous sort of concept and giving me sole authorship of the concept is unfair to the many, many people who contributed to it and refined it.
If you don’t want to count it, that’s fine too. Either way:
The Something Awful Forums invented Let’s Play. I don’t know which single person could be pinpointed for it, but they defined the initial concept. Even if you count Metal Gear 2, I will say that Vlaphor’s “I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream” Let’s Play was the first one that really drew people (including myself) to the concept on SA, and really defined what LP was - and still should be - all about : that is, introducing people to video games they may not be aware of, for better or worse.
6. What Doesn’t Count
The podcast I mentioned earlier also claims authorship of LP because one guy claims to have VHS recorded a video game and shown his friends in middle school.
Uh, why would that count?
Hell, I recorded game footage a couple times in my youth, too. I think I even have a DV of Midnight Club 2 with my friend (fuck you, the netplay was awesome.) But anyone can say they recorded anything. If anyone has a VLP that predates mine, and they’ve got a timestamp on an Internet post, hey, you win, go nuts.
Until then, I guess I win? And the prize is still nothing, right? We’re clear on that?
7. My “Authority” Over Let’s Play
This is something else I get shit for: who the hell am I to say you should or shouldn’t do an LP in a certain way?
Well, really, I’m no one. That’s why I don’t do it.
Seriously.
The only “authority” I have is on the Something Awful Let’s Play forum, where, like fucking all video game forums!, there are rules and I have to enforce them. Furthermore, I do strive to keep the level of Let’s Plays on the forums high calibre. I want you to come to SA LP to see the best of the best.
Retsupurae is a thing I do to make funny videos so jerks can laugh. Some of the jokes are throwaways meant to make you laugh; and yeah, I do think others do hit the mark in terms of what I think makes a good LP. (Example: Don’t read onscreen text out loud.)
But if you want to make just a fun video where you dick around with a video game, that’s fine. I can’t stop you, and generally, I wouldn’t like to.
I do think you know the point where you’re LPing a game because you want to show it off… and the point where you have an HD Capture Device and the LP is just an excuse to play a game that you want to anyway. Generally speaking, the latter case is typically just hoping your fans eat whatever you shit you give them.
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commufailures don't you mean; also note that the sciencewizards failed to add the classics to their study, possibly because they already knew the overwhelming support and love that all decent people have for words long written down.
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its cool to confirm that goons always immediately turn, lets all do something collectively into, im going to do something aloen and whin about it not working the whole time on the internet. much like this forum
dipshit420
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daddyholes posted:its cool to confirm that goons always immediately turn, lets all do something collectively into, im going to do something aloen and whin about it not working the whole time on the internet. much like this forum
that kind of sounds like what happened with a little something called communism