aerdil posted:

i hung out with someone from the rhizzone irl a few weeks ago and he hasn't posted on this forum since

hang out with the rest of us irl and all our problems are solved.

babyhueypnewton posted:

whenever i see a 1000 page gamefaq or some guy creating thousands of MLP music videos I think about how much intellectual potential is wasted under capitalism. people are dumb under capitalism because capitalism stupefies, the frat bro who you think is stupid is actually quite intelligent in his ability to navigate all the social ques and semiotics of our culture and the ability to be social and pick up women. under the fraternity of men under communism he could be a physicist or a philosopher.

So you're working out and getting buff so you are strong to do what?

"Getting women" as if they are objects to do what? Fuck them and forget about it? Some life. "Getting women" improves your social status amongst those who hi-five people for being "playa"s. Who gives a damn about being more social amongst those vapid wastes of food and employment?

Marxism is a great way to have fun, and enjoy things that are availible to you in life. Not only this, but the reading of a Marxist tract is an art form - by reading through, say, Combat Liberalism, you are treated to a grand story that is just overwhelmingly more fufilling than going out, fucking some chick, hi-fiving yourself and calling it a night.

gyrofry posted:

Driven intellectuals become hopelessly independent, which results in alienation. Unless you are committed to being eremitic your entire life, the only solution is to select the best options from the available social groups and slowly foster loyalty and camaraderie within. You can either work with those in your immediate area or, if plausible, relocate to an area you find more favorable. You should select groups that are populous, likely to produce lifelong benefit to you, and uphold moral values which are relatively close to your own. Accept and defend their dogma, regardless of how absurd it seems to you on its face. In time, with enough exposure and a little faith, you may even find yourself believing it. Do not mourn long over losing your old intellectual friends, for those bonds were always rooted in shared loneliness and plagued by mutual contempt. Relationships based on ironclad devotion to a common creed are much stronger and more fulfilling.

tsinava posted:

It would be cool to live at someones house with a bunch of other white people and pretend to be communist for like a year.

swirlsofhistory posted:

babyhueypnewton posted:

whenever i see a 1000 page gamefaq or some guy creating thousands of MLP music videos I think about how much intellectual potential is wasted under capitalism. people are dumb under capitalism because capitalism stupefies, the frat bro who you think is stupid is actually quite intelligent in his ability to navigate all the social ques and semiotics of our culture and the ability to be social and pick up women. under the fraternity of men under communism he could be a physicist or a philosopher.


What if they think the same about you but for politics? It's easier to count notches on a bedpost than victories in the class war waging in your head.

I want to partially retract this post. Most people are good, but they should be better.

babyhueypnewton posted:

There's probably some truth to pathologizing politics as Nietzsche does, you'll find no resistance from me. But you haven't really said much. If you believe politics comes from an inability to get laid (probably true in America), so what? You haven't actually said anything about politics, simply given them some kind of moral component where abnormality is bad and there's some mystical "norm." Nietzsche had the courage to condemn all modern life, complaining about socialism or fascism or even anime as some kind of escape from "normal life" is a joke.

Also, you're obsession with pathology is itself a pathology even more pathetic, as you are too weak to substitute intellectual passion for physical passion but instead substitute the passion of envy and self-hatred for politics which is already a replacement. Obviously the obsession with intellect and ascetic knowledge is a sign of degenerate slave morality, but the condemnation of it here is far worse.

Also lets not pretend the dumb frat bro is some spartan high intellectual, slave morality exists in all aspects of american life and the form picking up women takes (a science) is one of its forms.

"the essence of our era (postmodernity) is extremely well disclosed in the structure of otaku culture"
- hiroki azuma

gyrofry posted:

Driven intellectuals become hopelessly independent, which results in alienation. Unless you are committed to being eremitic your entire life, the only solution is to select the best options from the available social groups and slowly foster loyalty and camaraderie within. You can either work with those in your immediate area or, if plausible, relocate to an area you find more favorable. You should select groups that are populous, likely to produce lifelong benefit to you, and uphold moral values which are relatively close to your own. Accept and defend their dogma, regardless of how absurd it seems to you on its face. In time, with enough exposure and a little faith, you may even find yourself believing it. Do not mourn long over losing your old intellectual friends, for those bonds were always rooted in shared loneliness and plagued by mutual contempt. Relationships based on ironclad devotion to a common creed are much stronger and more fulfilling.

There's no reason at all to care about personal fulfillment or happiness, though.

Squalid posted:

you're not talking about science dude

bhpn didnt seem to be either, his whole post was all confused, that was my point

he was making an equivalence between ability to navigate social codes and ability to be a physicist, as if they were the same sort of thing and if we just changed the guy's priorities he'd be just as good at one as the other cuz they're the same

doesn't seem right to me, especially since it contradicts his other idea that approaching interactions w women as a science is bad, which would mean that making an equivalence between physics and getting laid is a bad thing to do

i dont have, like, a study to back this up because its about the internal logic of a single internet post

roseweird posted:

ignoring one's own innate drive to pursue personal desires is a good way to become schizophrenic and unaware of the influence of one's desires on others imo

this is a twelfth type of liberalism

roseweird posted:

http://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-2/mswv2_03.htm combat liberalism isn't just the name of the martial art practiced in the editorial pages of one's favorite periodicals

roseweird posted:

dusz2 posted:
There's no reason at all to care about personal fulfillment or happiness, though.


ignoring one's own innate drive to pursue personal desires is a good way to become schizophrenic and unaware of the influence of one's desires on others imo

Not at all, where'd you get those ideas? Obviously one would not be in ignorance about his desires as awareness of their depravity is what makes him abandon them in the first place.

roseweird posted:

okay i just think pretending not to have desires when one does have desires is silly, and probably just as destructive as grossly prioritising personal desire and fulfillment over community support and integration

The problem is getting rid of desire completely. You can make yourself not care about anything. However, some residual desire would be left and you would still act on your now greatly diminished desires every now and again because you would lack the necessary motivation to avoid them, even as you lack motivation to partake in them. The true way to get rid of desires is to also have a sanctified idea that can motivate yourself to purge all desire as directly as possible