#1
hello rhizzonites. you're pretty smart. admit it. you're also hip. not in some trivial trendy way, but deep in your bones. that's part of what makes you so great. so how does that jive with the fact you believe everyone should enjoy a just society free from all oppression? does your egalitarianism clash with your elitism?

let's face it, most people are pretty dumb. for everyone one of us cool kids there are thousands of "sheeple" out there who are just part of the crowd. sure, they deserve three hots and a cot like the rest of us, but their concerns are petty and their tastes are mundane. we're dreamers, like steve jobs, if steve jobs wasn't a fucking idiot.

the blanco-american rapper eminem says you only get one shot. smart guy that 8-miler. is radical personal achievement compatible with radical politics? hell, i hope so, because i plan on being very successful. i've had a few road bumps but i think i can get back on the saddle and ride this life out into the sunset over the next half-century.

i think this is a great sharing opportunity for people to step up and tell us their goals and where they hope to steer their ships in the future years. i've heard some of your stories but there's always room for more.
#2
as a neo-stakhanovite I don't see any contradiction here
#3
OP: friction alone
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#6
my elitism combines synergistically with my complete lack of personal ambition to produce what is perhaps the most potent form of egalitarianism known to man
#7
dam, i just ate four chcirken legs, that was delicious. I could eat about a hundred more but im trying to watch my buff af figure
#8
since when was anyone on the left about 'egalitarianism'

Much that passes as idealism is disguised hatred or disguised love of power.
#9
whenever i see a 1000 page gamefaq or some guy creating thousands of MLP music videos I think about how much intellectual potential is wasted under capitalism. people are dumb under capitalism because capitalism stupefies, the frat bro who you think is stupid is actually quite intelligent in his ability to navigate all the social ques and semiotics of our culture and the ability to be social and pick up women. under the fraternity of men under communism he could be a physicist or a philosopher.
#10
however, some guy creating thousands of MLYP music videos. that man is a genious
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#12
that's his gimmick*

*note: he hates the term "gimmick" about as bad as "modernity" and "climate change." so call it his lifestyle choice or Australian sensibilities
#13
actually under communism we will have our bread and our roses too but also way, way more my little pony shit.
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babyhueypnewton posted:

whenever i see a 1000 page gamefaq or some guy creating thousands of MLP music videos I think about how much intellectual potential is wasted under capitalism. people are dumb under capitalism because capitalism stupefies, the frat bro who you think is stupid is actually quite intelligent in his ability to navigate all the social ques and semiotics of our culture and the ability to be social and pick up women. under the fraternity of men under communism he could be a physicist or a philosopher.


What if they think the same about you but for politics? It's easier to count notches on a bedpost than victories in the class war waging in your head.

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babyhueypnewton posted:

whenever i see a 1000 page gamefaq or some guy creating thousands of MLP music videos I think about how much intellectual potential is wasted under capitalism. people are dumb under capitalism because capitalism stupefies, the frat bro who you think is stupid is actually quite intelligent in his ability to navigate all the social ques and semiotics of our culture and the ability to be social and pick up women. under the fraternity of men under communism he could be a physicist or a philosopher.



why would he prefer to be a physicist rather than a mad alpha player though? The social rewards and status in picking up women is far higher than anything most scientists ever accomplish

#16
this isme in real life
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#18

Ironicwarcriminal posted:

why would he prefer to be a physicist rather than a mad alpha player though? The social rewards and status in picking up women is far higher than anything most scientists ever accomplish



hmm maybe we should eradicate the female gender through some sort of vat-based system of human cloning pools....

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wasted posted:

that's his gimmick*

*note: he hates the term "gimmick" about as bad as "modernity" and "climate change." so call it his lifestyle choice or Australian sensibilities



modernity is a cool word. great concept. 'til a stranger came into town... started sellin' 'Steens.

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Ironicwarcriminal posted:

babyhueypnewton posted:

whenever i see a 1000 page gamefaq or some guy creating thousands of MLP music videos I think about how much intellectual potential is wasted under capitalism. people are dumb under capitalism because capitalism stupefies, the frat bro who you think is stupid is actually quite intelligent in his ability to navigate all the social ques and semiotics of our culture and the ability to be social and pick up women. under the fraternity of men under communism he could be a physicist or a philosopher.



why would he prefer to be a physicist rather than a mad alpha player though? The social rewards and status in picking up women is far higher than anything most scientists ever accomplish


I'm sure if there was a way to combine theoretical physics with pussy drilling, those guys from the Big Bang Theory would've figured it out by now!

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babyhueypnewton posted:

whenever i see a 1000 page gamefaq or some guy creating thousands of MLP music videos I think about how much intellectual potential is wasted under capitalism. people are dumb under capitalism because capitalism stupefies, the frat bro who you think is stupid is actually quite intelligent in his ability to navigate all the social ques and semiotics of our culture and the ability to be social and pick up women. under the fraternity of men under communism he could be a physicist or a philosopher.



that's a really weird way to tell us you're bad with women

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babyhueypnewton posted:

whenever i see a 1000 page gamefaq or some guy creating thousands of MLP music videos I think about how much intellectual potential is wasted under capitalism. people are dumb under capitalism because capitalism stupefies, the frat bro who you think is stupid is actually quite intelligent in his ability to navigate all the social ques and semiotics of our culture and the ability to be social and pick up women. under the fraternity of men under communism he could be a physicist or a philosopher.



this is what atheists actually believe

#24
There's probably some truth to pathologizing politics as Nietzsche does, you'll find no resistance from me. But you haven't really said much. If you believe politics comes from an inability to get laid (probably true in America), so what? You haven't actually said anything about politics, simply given them some kind of moral component where abnormality is bad and there's some mystical "norm." Nietzsche had the courage to condemn all modern life, complaining about socialism or fascism or even anime as some kind of escape from "normal life" is a joke.

Also, you're obsession with pathology is itself a pathology even more pathetic, as you are too weak to substitute intellectual passion for physical passion but instead substitute the passion of envy and self-hatred for politics which is already a replacement. Obviously the obsession with intellect and ascetic knowledge is a sign of degenerate slave morality, but the condemnation of it here is far worse.

Also lets not pretend the dumb frat bro is some spartan high intellectual, slave morality exists in all aspects of american life and the form picking up women takes (a science) is one of its forms.
#25
im terrible with women, and i vote
#26
Communism requires the total eradication of recreational activities and organic social structures
#27

Agnus_Dei posted:

Communism requires the total eradication of recreational activities and organic social structures



Since communism eventually leads to being a guerrilla in the countryside, being a non-person on the run from the law, in exile, or in jail, or being part of an illegal organization that is run like a military with complete obedience to democratic centralism, epic this.

That being socialist (or any politics at all) is considered separate from social life and recreation only shows the cowardice of liberal politics and the weakness of the left.

#28
yeah im sure it will lead to one of those things for you bhpn *rolls eyes*
#29
i think you should choose communism b/c it's correct and not because you think you'll be any less of a self-loathing misanthrope after the revolution
#30
if pat tilman stuck to what he was good at (being an alpha player) and didn't try and dabble with politics the only friendly fire he would have taken is a splash of his buddy's jizz as they pounded out the dallas cowboys cheerleading squad

a sobering thought.
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#32
It would be cool to live at someones house with a bunch of other white people and pretend to be communist for like a year.
#33
i'm stupid and gay, op, and I only support communism to bring everyone else down to my terrible level. Cheers!
#34
i am human garbage from the gutter
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babyhueypnewton posted:

Also lets not pretend the dumb frat bro is some spartan high intellectual, slave morality exists in all aspects of american life and the form picking up women takes (a science) is one of its forms.



ah yes, the science of picking up women... a "method" if you will.

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aerdil posted:

babyhueypnewton posted:

Also lets not pretend the dumb frat bro is some spartan high intellectual, slave morality exists in all aspects of american life and the form picking up women takes (a science) is one of its forms.

ah yes, the theory of picking up women... a "ladder" if you will.

#37
smh if you don't consider yourself subhuman
#38
Disagreed, OP. In actuality, we're the most wretched people in world history, and I can think long and hard and still find nothing good about any of us, nor any potential to become anything better in the future. The only reason it's hard to consolidate our existence with egalitarianism is this - we've done nothing to deserve it . If the world is fortunate enough to survive us, we will only be remembered as that generation of hypocrites and cowards who almost sank the entire human enterprise.

No worries though - none of this is at all relevant, as people living now will not know equality or solidarity until the day we die, and hence whether we deserve it is beyond the point. For the short term there aren't even any immediate consequences. Nobody even any longer cares about being a hypocrite - I know I don't. It's an absolute certainty that 30 years now the only place for ideals is as fodder for snide jokes to make with other misanthropes at work, or as something to ironically laugh at when by accident you are reminded of what the world is actually like.
#39
the answer to your problem is as simple as it is easy as it is fun and great! it's LIBERALISM!
#40
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3584470&pagenumber=1&perpage=40#post421727742