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http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/10/04/sting-operation-the-stunning-percentage-of-science-journals-that-accepted-a-completely-bogus-study/

SCIENCE
‘STING OPERATION’: THE STUNNING PERCENTAGE OF SCIENCE JOURNALS THAT ACCEPTED A COMPLETELY BOGUS STUDY
Oct. 4, 2013 11:25am Liz Klimas
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Science magazine wanted to figure out just how legitimate open-access, peer-reviewed journals are. So, it set out to dupe them with a completely fake study.

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The sting operation conducted by Science magazine showed many open-access journals lack the quality control to catch fake or faulty science — or even ignore peer reviews pointing it out — in order to make profit on submissions. (Image source: Shutterstock.com)
What it found is surprising some in the scientific industry, while only confirming the fears of others. More than half of the journals John Bohannon submitted his paper about the fictitious, anticancer properties identified in a lichen compound were accepted for publication.

The first and easiest clue that could have been picked out by the journals was that the study’s author, Ocorrafoo Cobange, does not exist as a real person, nor does his research institute, the Wassee Institute of Medicine.

But beyond that, Bohannon wrote in Science that “any reviewer with more than a high-school knowledge of chemistry and the ability to understand a basic data plot should have spotted the paper’s short-comings immediately.”

“Its experiments are so hopelessly flawed that the results are meaningless,” Bohannon continued.

The experiment was testing so-called “open-access” journals — those that are not subscription based. There are some who advocate in favor of open-access to help spread scientific knowledge, while others want the system to remain remain subscription-oriented, which can create a financial barrier.

Of the 304 submissions of the fake study during a 10-month timeframe (only 255 submitted received some sort of response from editors) 157 seemed to miss the study’s “fatal flaws” in the “sting operation” that Bohannan said shows “the contours of an emerging Wild West in academic publishing.”

Sixty percent of this 255 didn’t undergo any peer review, which for those that were rejected is “good news,” according to Bohannan, because it means editors didn’t even waste reviewers time with it. For those that accepted it without peer review it means “the paper was rubber-stamped without being read by anyone.”

Of the 106 submissions that did undergo review, only 36 recognized the scientific problems with the study. Sixteen publications, even with “damning reviews,” still accepted the paper.

Here’s more from Bohannan’s perspective on what the sting revealed.(emphasis added):

From humble and idealistic beginnings a decade ago, open-access scientific journals have mushroomed into a global industry, driven by author publication fees rather than traditional subscriptions. Most of the players are murky. The identity and location of the journals’ editors, as well as the financial workings of their publishers, are often purposefully obscured. But Science‘s investigation casts a powerful light. Internet Protocol (IP) address traces within the raw headers of e-mails sent by journal editors betray their locations. Invoices for publication fees reveal a network of bank accounts based mostly in the developing world. And the acceptances and rejections of the paper provide the first global snapshot of peer review across the open-access scientific enterprise.

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Acceptance was the norm, not the exception. [CROWN OTEE MPHASIZE THEIRS The paper was accepted by journals hosted by industry titans Sage and Elsevier. The paper was accepted by journals published by prestigious academic institutions such as Kobe University in Japan. It was accepted by scholarly society journals. It was even accepted by journals for which the paper’s topic was utterly inappropriate, such as the Journal of Experimental & Clinical Assisted Reproduction.



What it seems to come down to is profit.
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“But even when editors and bank accounts are in the developing world, the company that ultimately reaps the profits may be based in the United States or Europe. In some cases, academic publishing powerhouses sit at the top of the chain,” Bohannan wrote.

Another interesting find was that an open-access journal that Bohannan said is among the many that have been “criticized for poor quality control” actually had the “most rigorous peer review of all.” The journal PLOS One, for example, was the only one pointing out some of the study’s ethical issues. This journal rejected the fictitious paper due to poor scientific quality.

Read about the full investigation in Bohannan’s full article in Science.

Featured image via Shutterstock.com.



Frankly, this is a badas article

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damn if science journals are like this, imagine how bad continental philosophy ones must be
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getfiscal posted:

damn if science journals are like this, imagine how bad continental philosophy ones must be


Wiat which continent.

#4

Crow posted:

Wiat which continent.

australia

#5
the Event of Love proper is loike a fockin well-backed wallaby nippa gettin its Jonney nopped a sting from the yellow-black wollem Queen spida
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by the way that's glenn beck's site, once again proving that even though conservative elites are horrible people anti-liberalism and libertarianism are the only possible AmeriKKKan ideologies from which truth can emerge.

just from the front page:

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/10/18/libya-to-be-the-next-oil-and-gas-paradise-this-one-ceo-thinks-so/

“Five million people and 2 million barrels of oil (per day), which means that this country can be a paradise, and I am doubtful that Libyans will not catch this opportunity of becoming the new Abu Dhabi, or the new Qatar or the new Kuwait.”


noted a sharp contrast between the Libyan and Egyptian revolutions. “You know we’re the largest oil company in Egypt as well. Egypt has troubles. You’ve seen yesterday 40 casualties, but what is important is a huge difference between Egypt and Libya is that even during the whole revolution, we never lost one barrel of oil production.”



http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/10/18/meet-the-guys-actually-making-money-off-obamacare/

Not surprisingly investors also see a promising future for software companies focused on data-driven solutions in the health-care space...For example, Maidenberg is invested in a company called Propeller Health, which is a company that uses a sensor on an asthma patient’s inhaler to collect data about the patient’s condition. The collected data can be shared with the physician to remotely monitor the patient’s condition and know when a change in treatment is necessary.


So what Simplee does is work with the hospitals to change the way bills are presented to hospitals and the company has already seen some success. One California hospital that is a Simplee client saw its bill pay go from 2 percent to more than 30 percent in just six months, Maidenberg said.

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But yeah obviously the elevation of science to be 'above' ideology is pure ideology and anaytical marxists should be first against the wall when the revolution comes
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I swear to god if you guys come in here and rag on bhpn i will fucking nosh your head mate
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maybe i could be accepted. one day.
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science is hard, ideology is e z, u stink like a skunk bithc
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babyhueypnewton posted:

But yeah obviously the elevation of science to be 'above' ideology is pure ideology and anaytical marxists should be first against the wall when the revolution comes



u hurt 1 fuckin hair on a single marxist head and see what happens bub *motions to gun-totin', chaw-spittin' southern good ol' boy Revolutionary Vanguard standing behind me*

#12
science is only good if you do it right imo
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"sting operation"
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more like lie-ence
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acephalousuniverse posted:

"sting operation"



zenyatta intifada

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I think you'll find that what happened here wasn't science, which is something different in that it doesn't make me & my ideology look bad.
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100% of philosophy is bogus
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i was at a workshop where a political science grad student was giving a talk about studying the statistics of constitutions along with whatever arbitrary data they decided to include about them (including whether they were promulgated under "democratic" vs "nondemocratic" regimes and im pretty sure they explicitly said that by that they meant OECD vs non-OECD) and there was a part of the talk where they said they were trying to figure out if culture mattered at all for their research
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american poli sci students in general are some of the dumbest people on the planet
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they had a big chart of how long different constitutions lasted and there were like a dozen our of several hundred that were older than wwii and they're trying to figure out if having too many amendments makes your constitution unstable or something stupid. this is Quality Data. gonna make some robust conclusions now guys!
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innsmouthful posted:

american poli sci students in general are some of the dumbest people on the planet



but we're scrappy.

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The only good political science paper I've seen was an analysis of how western charitable aid undermines African governments and promotes corruption.
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I dont get it. Are poli sci students like, do they, fuck. JEsus fuck. Christ.... do they.. eh... D they have to take like ... forensics? Debate? eRrrr
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obviously they're not all bad but the field seems to actively work against flexibility of thought and the questioning of basic assumptions and as a result attracts people with those qualities. that's how you end up with a dumb question like does having too many amendments make your constitution nonfunctional.

who says we need a constitution? how can one say that democracy is necessary everywhere? what makes democracy preferable over other forms of government, or is a government even necessary? elementary level questions obviously, but questions that will get your balls gnawed off in any poli sci class at an american university. pretty pathetic imo.
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innsmouthful posted:

who says we need a constitution? how can one say that democracy is necessary everywhere? what makes democracy preferable over other forms of government, or is a government even necessary? elementary level questions obviously.



Hi, welcome to the intro lecture of a 1000 level Comparative Politics course, taken by most of us idiot Poli Sci folks.

I hate most of us but you're actually wrong. We're professional bullshit artists and can be really flexible. It's why we're in top 10 earning degrees so often. We can be anything to anyone! Mostly just lawyers though.

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SariBari posted:

Hi, welcome to the intro lecture of a 1000 level Comparative Politics course, taken by most of us idiot Poli Sci folks.

I hate most of us but you're actually wrong. We're professional bullshit artists and can be really flexible. It's why we're in top 10 earning degrees so often. We can be anything to anyone! Mostly just lawyers though.



see though, i too am an idiot poli sci kid, even though it's my second major, and this has been my experience. lotta dumb questions are asked in intro classes like the ones i just stated. the problem that i've seen though is what you just stated: after awhile everybody stops questioning anything and just bullshits all the time in order to appease whomever is asking the question. welcome to college, right?

i feel like it's a bigger deal than that though because the discipline as a whole has no concept of introspection. there is no assumption questioning on a higher level that i can tell. obviously i could be wrong about this but, like stated, i deal with what i can see. the chameleon flexibility that you've mentioned is a flexibility of action, but i'm talking about a flexibility of thought, which again i believe to be lacking. you're welcome to disagree.

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thats a gay thing to think.
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gay as a pejorative, I mean.
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innsmouthful posted:

obviously they're not all bad but the field seems to actively work against flexibility of thought and the questioning of basic assumptions and as a result attracts people with those qualities. that's how you end up with a dumb question like does having too many amendments make your constitution nonfunctional.

who says we need a constitution? how can one say that democracy is necessary everywhere? what makes democracy preferable over other forms of government, or is a government even necessary? elementary level questions obviously, but questions that will get your balls gnawed off in any poli sci class at an american university. pretty pathetic imo.



it would be equivalent to a lawyer questioning the source of common or constitutional law, I mean every law student at least looks into it but after a certain point the philosophic justifications of state power begin to become a little removed from the practical necessities of life as a state department aparatchik.

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I liked the Roman system of an unwritten constitution. Under such a system American conservatives, by frequent and loud repetition, establish that Thomas Jefferson was always a christian and that the founders had always intended for Non-Denominational-Evangelical christianity to be the state religion of our country.
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Squalid posted:

it would be equivalent to a lawyer questioning the source of common or constitutional law, I mean every law student at least looks into it but after a certain point the philosophic justifications of state power begin to become a little removed from the practical necessities of life as a state department aparatchik.



idgi

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The issue for poli-sci is, Aristotle already acknowledged that wisdom is important and politics is not for children. Furthermore, hierarchy is necessary because people are not equal, that goes double for in the classroom. US schools don't recognize any of these points and it all turns to shit. US schools also fail to take a position, they say "open-minded" but really it's relativism and lack of any sort of backbone or beliefs other than luke-warm, safe-zone liberalism.
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lykourgos why dont you just admit all this classicist stuff is just leading up to you wanting to rub your dick in between the thighs of young boys
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acephalousuniverse posted:

lykourgos why dont you just admit all this classicist stuff is just leading up to you wanting to rub your dick in between the thighs of young boys


oh so THATS why i was doign that

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Lykourgos posted:

The issue for poli-sci is, Aristotle already acknowledged that wisdom is important and politics is not for children. Furthermore, hierarchy is necessary because people are not equal, that goes double for in the classroom. US schools don't recognize any of these points and it all turns to shit. US schools also fail to take a position, they say "open-minded" but really it's relativism and lack of any sort of backbone or beliefs other than luke-warm, safe-zone liberalism.



we have gifted classes, but all those did is segregate the smart kids into fuckaround adolescent playpens with no goals or structure while completely removing them from the actual learning environment of the classroom. its some Harrison Bergeron shit

and im actually just now realizing right this second that its focus on writing, music, and games playing was nothing more than an insidious plot to corral an entire generation of geniuses into useless and nonconstructive Liberal Arts rather than the STEM fields where they belonged

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hahahaha the very idea that the best and brightest of us all should become actors and authors and singers and painters rather than doctors, scientists, and politicians what the hell were we thinking.... the brainwashing is now and suddenly falling away like an old scab
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people who do stuff are gay. case closed. thats why i studied the liberal arts.
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my school didn't have any real AP classes, and engineering was very heavily pushed. anyone who showed the slightest aptitude could get a full ride, if not a stipend, at the local community college's 4-year engineering program, housed in a fancy new dedicated facility. if you were extra good, it was really easy to start your college classes as a high school junior. i assumed that anything being so heavily pushed would be swamped by the time i actually got out of school, not taking into account how extraordinary it was to go to a school populated exclusively by the children of working class caucasians in a state not ran by rednecks

so i went to undergrad for psych and am now a lawyer, lol, definitely got what i fucking deserve
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on the other hand every male engineer i've ever met and a solid majority of the women are baby reactionaries