clanzy posted:

not yet. he's been promoted to Jew, but he's got a ways to go before he's mixed race.

i guess you didnt get the memo: Jews just got promoted to Italiano

conec posted:

w h ile i was s till living in b erlin 1 summer n ight t here was was gr oup of italiano touri sts staggering o utside a co rner bar located one b lock away f rom my flat and one of th e gr ease balls was ben t over wif his derriere wagging in t he air as he shouted his rendition of th at pop song that wa s all ov er the air waves we no speak americano was t he so ng but he was singing "i w anna be americano!!! i wanna drive a big cadillac !!" wa s pretty trill i g u ess to witness imo

conec

Superabound posted:

the Anti-Catcalling phenomenon is stealth-funded entirely by anti-immigration groups and is so popular because it gives upper class white liberal women a socially acceptable excuse to oppress minorities and regentrify neighborhoods

Another photo of a cat caller

babyhueypnewton posted:

I like how they stress she's mixed race, cause it would be too uncomfortable if she was a white woman taking pictures of black and Hispanic men. But the fact that she's getting an MFA from Yale and grew up in a wealthy neighborhood in Colorado taking pictures of poor workers and unemployed minorities is totally cool.

1st world feminism

what do you have to teach first world women about morality?

it's hilarious how much you all hate your mothers and sisters. i bet half of you still depend on them in some way too. do me a favor this holiday season, don't get them shit. take them to soup kitchens or walk 10 paces behind them in a part of town where they have no right to be. listen to these men and boys say they want inside of your relative's cunt. that should erase a generation or so of white guilt for the fam. also, be sure to tell all of the women who actually "belong" there that you're sorry for the much worse harassment they have to endure and you wish your whore mothers could take their medicine for them.

SariBari posted:

thirdplace posted:

violence doesn't beget violence, mistreatment doesn't beget mistreatment, victims always strike out against their oppressors and never against themselves or things they would love, there is good and there is evil and never the twain shall meet

the poor are very Romantic

the rich are very morally righteous. political work is done with the masses as they are, not as we wish them to be.

To link oneself with the masses, one must act in accordance with the needs and wishes of the masses. All work done for the masses must start from their needs and not from the desire of any individual, however well-intentioned. It often happens that objectively the masses need a certain change, but subjectively they are not yet conscious of the need, not yet willing or determined to make the change. In such cases, we should wait patiently. We should not make the change until, through our work, most of the masses have become conscious of the need and are willing and determined to carry it out. Otherwise we shall isolate ourselves from the masses. Unless they are conscious and willing, any kind of work that requires their participation will turn out to be a mere formality and will fail.... There are two principles here: one is the actual needs of the masses rather than what we fancy they need, and the other is the wishes of the masses, who must make up their own minds instead of our making up their minds for them. -Mao Zedong, 1945

To link oneself with the masses, one must act in accordance with the needs and wishes of the masses. All work done for the masses must start from their needs and not from the desire of any individual, however well-intentioned. It often happens that objectively the masses need a certain change, but subjectively they are not yet conscious of the need, not yet willing or determined to make the change. In such cases, we should wait patiently. We should not make the change until, through our work, most of the masses have become conscious of the need and are willing and determined to carry it out. Otherwise we shall isolate ourselves from the masses. Unless they are conscious and willing, any kind of work that requires their participation will turn out to be a mere formality and will fail.... There are two principles here: one is the actual needs of the masses rather than what we fancy they need, and the other is the wishes of the masses, who must make up their own minds instead of our making up their minds for them. -Mao Zedong, 1945

you're right, we will be judged by the least of us. and in our country that's women and their children.

continue to punish capitalists by fucking and destroying white 1st world women, bhpn.

SariBari posted:

To link oneself with the masses, one must act in accordance with the needs and wishes of the masses. All work done for the masses must start from their needs and not from the desire of any individual, however well-intentioned. It often happens that objectively the masses need a certain change, but subjectively they are not yet conscious of the need, not yet willing or determined to make the change. In such cases, we should wait patiently. We should not make the change until, through our work, most of the masses have become conscious of the need and are willing and determined to carry it out. Otherwise we shall isolate ourselves from the masses. Unless they are conscious and willing, any kind of work that requires their participation will turn out to be a mere formality and will fail.... There are two principles here: one is the actual needs of the masses rather than what we fancy they need, and the other is the wishes of the masses, who must make up their own minds instead of our making up their minds for them. -Mao Zedong, 1945

you're right, we will be judged by the least of us. and in our country that's women and their children.

continue to punish capitalists by fucking and destroying white 1st world women, bhpn.

my problem is not with challenging sexism or racism. to not do so would be liberalism. my problem is with the fanatical "call out" culture that has taken over the left, and rather than knowing our friends and treating our comrades as "fundamentally good" treating them as "fundamentally impure". this is a problem with strategy of course, but the real problem is that the moral purity that comes with the strategy of "privilege", "intersectionality", and "checking yourself" makes any kind of mass line or popular front work impossible. in fact it makes any kind of democratic centralism, or any work at all impossible. the end result is internet feminism, but it has had a serious degenerate effect on irl politics.

we have liberal feminists who believe they are better than actual socialist organizations because they don't care enough about trans whatever. we have splits over not which organizational form is best for revolution but over "slut-shaming" or "progressive stack". we have people who do not care about security culture or FBI disinformation because certain moral transgressions are unacceptable and need to be "called out".

thirdplace posted:

you don't cure psychological trauma by pretending its symptoms are virtues

I would like to reply to you in terms of Spinoza and say that the proletariat doesn't wage war against the ruling class because it considers such a war to be just. The proletariat makes war with the ruling class because, for the first time in history, it wants to take power. -Michel Foucault owning Chomsky

Real communists are not in the business of virtue, they are in the business of violence (in a Nietzschean sense). They create their own virtue. People condemn the black panthers sexism because they lost. The modern left goes on about identity because it has no power and therefore does not have to impose itself on others.

To put it another way, the Naxalites do not use female soldiers because they care about feminism, it is because patriarchy in India has created an opportunity for female soldiers to be the most class conscious and the most fierce fighters for socialism. You may think this is the same thing but it is not, it is a tactical, not moral, consideration. If trans rights weakens, rather than strengthens, socialism than it should be ignored even if it is the "morally right" thing. If the machismo of the 26th of July Movement made it more effective and the recent decriminalizing of homosexuality has weakened Cuba, than that is a problem. I'm not saying it did, I am saying Marxism is a science and all ideas must be explored on their scientific merit and not their moral content.

roseweird posted:

bhpn what i am hearing here is that women and gays are pawns in your narcissistic revolutionary imaginings

pretty much. but you have to be a bit of a narcissist to believe in political change. millions of people died during the russian civil war, same with the chinese civil war. 2/3rds of Castros guerrillas died almost immediately. moral arguments for real political change don't go very far, especially if the goal is for you to survive to see them.