Goatstein_Ascendant posted:

Not a lot of CEOs living in houses with 40 mummified cats crushed under newspapers from the 1980s iirc

lloyd blankfein

getfiscal posted:

it's hard for me to judge what i'll be able to earn now that i'm returning to work. i mean on paper i'm a white male with an economics degree, but i'm also anxious and fat. i have to do more market research for this disability thing i'm starting and out of personal interest. personally i think it's a terrible idea to aim for the middle. i asked a caseworker how much success their disability program has and she said that she's seen people go on to successfully hold jobs. which is exactly what she meant, her measure of success was that some people go on to work a job, any job. when i was in montreal the job programs for disabled people were almost all things like tearing tickets at movie theatres and cleaning offices at night. i believe, on the other hand, that you only get one moment and you can either capture it or let it slip, as foretold by eminem, and i'm not really keen on cleaning up after goons that upper deck a mall's toilets.

i guess my first consideration is that reading a fair bit of junk about trotskyism or whatever doesn't actually qualify you for most well-paying jobs except jacobin intern, so i'll have to bootstrap myself into some sort of skill. but i shouldn't start from zero so building on my economics and finance stuff might be a good idea. i'm skeptical that working retail finance does anything but get keep you in the most routine of sales gigs so i'd like to learn more about financial strategy for businesses, in terms of judging corporate finance and so on. there is a lot of self-study stuff i could do in this area before i'd need to move on to credentials, which i'd have to do eventually i think. there are a lot of ways i could do that.

anyway, sometimes i feel like a good way to organize my life is to make the most ludicrous choice possible and then run with it, because life isn't real, and socialism isn't real. also i haven't slept.

unless you have connections you're not going to get into corporate finance without like an MBA or really stellar undergraduate record. do you know any programming? statistical programming? how is your math? you may be too old for IB or trading firm internships, but you can try. the interviews are mostly math puzzles, they don't usually care if you know anything since they'll be training you for the first year(s). that being said IB is super stressful, and trading can be too + you'll also need to know a lot of math and programming. consulting jobs probably have a lower barrier entry and more reasonable hours.

getfiscal posted:

elemennop posted:

unless you have connections you're not going to get into corporate finance without like an MBA or really stellar undergraduate record. do you know any programming? statistical programming? how is your math? you may be too old for IB or trading firm internships, but you can try. the interviews are mostly math puzzles, they don't usually care if you know anything since they'll be training you for the first year(s). that being said IB is super stressful, and trading can be too + you'll also need to know a lot of math and programming. consulting jobs probably have a lower barrier entry and more reasonable hours.

i appreciate this but i was sort of joking/blustering. i have no idea how anything works for real when it comes to jobs, and i don't have many applicable skills, so it's going to be a bit of a slog for me either way. consulting seems like it'd be fun but i have no idea how to get into that.

consult THIS

getfiscal posted:

it's hard for me to judge what i'll be able to earn now that i'm returning to work. i mean on paper i'm a white male with an economics degree, but i'm also anxious and fat. i have to do more market research for this disability thing i'm starting and out of personal interest. personally i think it's a terrible idea to aim for the middle. i asked a caseworker how much success their disability program has and she said that she's seen people go on to successfully hold jobs. which is exactly what she meant, her measure of success was that some people go on to work a job, any job. when i was in montreal the job programs for disabled people were almost all things like tearing tickets at movie theatres and cleaning offices at night. i believe, on the other hand, that you only get one moment and you can either capture it or let it slip, as foretold by eminem, and i'm not really keen on cleaning up after goons that upper deck a mall's toilets.

i guess my first consideration is that reading a fair bit of junk about trotskyism or whatever doesn't actually qualify you for most well-paying jobs except jacobin intern, so i'll have to bootstrap myself into some sort of skill. but i shouldn't start from zero so building on my economics and finance stuff might be a good idea. i'm skeptical that working retail finance does anything but get keep you in the most routine of sales gigs so i'd like to learn more about financial strategy for businesses, in terms of judging corporate finance and so on. there is a lot of self-study stuff i could do in this area before i'd need to move on to credentials, which i'd have to do eventually i think. there are a lot of ways i could do that.

anyway, sometimes i feel like a good way to organize my life is to make the most ludicrous choice possible and then run with it, because life isn't real, and socialism isn't real. also i haven't slept.

first step: hit. the. fucking. GYM

postposting posted:

a friend of mine was thinking about going into consulting to make some fat stacks, but she had to drop out pretty early in the application process after realizing how nakedly and completely evil the profession is after a few interviews.

and she's only a liberal

well mao killed 70 million people and i consider him a sort of role model so gutting pensions and taking a cut will basically be a cake walk

VoxNihili posted:

are you actually trying to get into finance, gitfiscal, and if so, why?

to be honest i just want the most intellectually challenging job with an economics bent that will earn me piles of cash larger than goatstein's monstrous head. i'd also like to have a china angle involved.

roseweird posted:

you can never be too rich or too thin

just like pizza

Lykourgos posted:

lol intellectually challenging job haha you're killing me getfiscal, finance/business is full of mouth-breathers and money-grubs. Find a job worth doing for its own sake, work alongside gentlemen in a field that has potential for great experience and knowledge. Don't make a living looking at spreadsheets and selling buckles or bracelets or whatever your clients produce; even if you make a billion dollars you'll still have to admit that you got the money by promoting apple sales or some low class nonsense.

hmm. you make a good point, as usual, good sir. but if i swagger into a room full of business lightweights, wouldn't that give me an advantage? i refer you to sun tzu.......

Lykourgos posted:

What do you mean by business lightweights? If you're referring to people who do the same thing as you, just at a smaller firm or something, then okay I'm sure they'll be impressed with you, or envious and hate you. But you'll both be part of a rather mediocre and middling profession that will consume your time with no great knowledge and a very questionable sort of personal growth. And you'll also have to admit at the end of the day that you weren't saving babies, or upholding morality, or really doing anything worth talking about in the slightest.

hmmm.... let's hash this out.... how do you feel about corporate law?

Lykourgos posted:

People who deal with the law are the highest class of people, because the political science is the supreme practical science.

i respect your opinion as a gentleman. is it true that it's near-impossible to get a job in law these days? i assume when people can't find work it's because they are betas