daddyholes posted:what a bad thread this turned into
and it had such auspicious beginnings
roseweird posted:say what you will, huey, for i have heard stories of you and your ways and i do not want to cross you
In this order: Read De Sade. Read Baudelaire. Read Bataille. then watch japanese anime Aku No Hana (The Flowers of Evil) 惡の華. then you should pretty much know everything you need to about philosophy
babyhueypnewton posted:roseweird posted:say what you will, huey, for i have heard stories of you and your ways and i do not want to cross you
In this order: Read De Sade. Read Baudelaire. Read Bataille. then watch japanese anime Aku No Hana (The Flowers of Evil) 惡の華. then you should pretty much know everything you need to about philosophy
I watched Aku no Hana episode 1.
I very much enjoyed the ambient soundtrack, a tendency of better shows. The art style is unique and evokes an extreme realism: the character designs do not have any exaggerated elements, there are no zany hair colors or big eyes, they are rather a sort of a reductive vision of actual Japanese people. The impression one gets from the introduction of the show is that the protagonist is melancholy, introverted, and intellectual.
I found the OP disappointing. The version I watched (Crunchyroll) didn't contain subtitled lyrics, annoyingly, but the OP was inappropriately j-poppy, and for the first half or so just shows credits and some boring framing imagery on a white background. The second half shows pleasant photographic-like stills and has a guitar solo, which is better, but still not impressed.
His love interest is established shortly after the OP by way of a glance after she reveals herself to be proactive in the class room, beautiful, and happy. There is then a gratuitous scene of high school girls in PE wearing bloomers, including his love interest, which proves once again that anime never fails to include fan service. His geeky friends make comments about their thighs. His love interest glances at him and he looks away out of anxiety.
It is revealed that the protag, safely alone in his room, enjoys reading poetry while fantasizing romantically about this girl. He also has a framed and dignified portrait of a man from history on his shelf. Later, amongst friends, he says the man's name: Baudelaire. (His friends insinuate he is weird for reading him.) After which, I realize, the series is named after his poetry book, "The Flowers of Evil." And I can only help but think that another name for this series might have been: "What if a High School Loner Read Baudelaire's 'Flowers of Evil'?" (The joke is Moshidora.) At this point I must point out the admiration the Japanese have for the French when it comes to their mutual succor in existential angst, although I wonder why the Japanese don't seem to relate as well with the miserable Russians, probably because they are historical enemies.
There's a little more to the episode... his friends are tacky and rude, and a girl in his class dramatically shows that she is filled with a mysterious outspoken resentment for authority. The final scene and ED are nothing short of bizarre. The music is a creepy affected voice singing over experimental synth music, abnormal for anime, but appreciated. The final frame is a drawing of the author saying to "Watch the next episode, shit-face." Maybe I will. Maybe I will.
DildoMalone posted:shut up about anime you nerds
aku no hana isn't anime, it's rotoscoped
littlegreenpills posted:DildoMalone posted:shut up about anime you nerds
it's rotoscoped
so youre saying its an animated japanese cartoon
Lykourgos posted:Squalid posted:i do roseweird. unfortunately i do not know who that is.
and yes I did mean Eudemian Ethics. Really found Aristotle underwhelming.Have you read anything else by Aristotle? If not, I am very surprised that you wound up with the Eudemian Ethics; what caused you to pick that audio book? Anyway, I would never recommend Aristotle as an audio book, but you could have done a lot worse than starting with Eudemian Ethics.
In terms of it being an audio book, here is my opinion. Plato is a group of friends, Aristotle is a textbook. We have all read Plato, and it is like you are watching a remarkable conversation. Readers do get annoyed at what people say and want to join in, but that's just testament to how well Plato writes.
Aristotle, like you know, is nothing like that. His dialogues are lost, and what is left is precious but dry. Every sentence he writes is more valuable than gold; specifically, you must reread and think about each sentence. At times I think Aristotle is better than Plato; I heard a quote from a Catholic that "where God is silent, Aristotle speaks". I don't know where that quote came from, or if it was just his own words, but Aristotle is probably the greatest human ever born. Sometimes I think the most valuable ethical/political work is the Nicomachean Ethics, and the most valuable theological work is a section of the Metaphysics.
I have not read all of Aristotle, and we have our disagreements at times, but there is no one that can challenge his breadth of knowledge. He is every bit as valuable as Plato, but the relationship is much different. You must read him, and you cannot start with him; if you want recommendations on how to access him I am happy to give suggestions, but I think you know well enough.
I picked it because I was leaving in 5 minutes and it was 10 hours long, which was about as much driving as I was going to do.
I certainly can't claim to have digested all i heard, but I think I got the thrust of his arguments, which I found disappointingly broad. I.E., while I can't disagree with much he claimed, I feel I could justify almost any action I might take or have taken with his reasoning, and also condemn those same actions.
DildoMalone posted:if it moves its animated thats what animation is it doesnt matter if its traced or whatever
Superabound posted:Lykourgos posted:seriously though someone make a banner and I will pay $ to put it on SA or some shit. Promise.
Make a picture of Herakles flexin while saying something like "welcome to the gun show"im fuckign drunk.ts goddamn chool as hell. ill make somethirng lkater
make sure to write LAISSEZ FAIRE on it and put a picture of audrey hepburn
deadken posted:heraclitus is cool but philosophy went to total shit with socrates and only really started to recover in the mid 19th century
"So I put my foot in this river, and then stick my other foot in, and it's like I'm putting it in a whole new river because it's different water. What if everything is like that? WOAH" – A short history of dialectics
