roseweird posted:his classical so-called knowledge is only a loose collection of trivia unencumbered by wisdom, understanding, or any kind of analytic framework. he offers to a discussion on classics no function that could not be better and much less obnoxiously fulfilled by a quick search of perseus or the internet classics archive. he is furthermore a man of low breeding and petty ambitions, posturing in the colonies as one of his betters, where he will squirm out his life until the final bell tolls and the masquerade is at last revealed.
maybe you should read st augustine
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also its really confusing that you think i'm going to come to some unhappy end. youre literally a child in school somewhere, you know nothing
Lykourgos posted:thank you, I will keep posting when I have the time. work gets busy at times.
grumblefish, have you ever tried to rap? like, lay down a backing track and just flow? you should get into it, i bet you could make some really great rap about classical greece and imperial china.
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tpaine posted:the 9 posters who upvoted that shit should be banned
i automatically upvote any post with 10 or more upvotes. surely all those people cant be wrong. and who am i to go against popular opinion anyway?
Lykourgos posted:Hmm, that's an interesting article. Does anyone know where the author believes that these rational, profit-minded individuals are making their transactions? I know it's not America, because that would mean that all these transactions take place in a regulated environment, subject to a system of laws created and enforced by large institutions over the individuals, and the transactions would also then take advantage of many public services and infrastructure, not to mention the social and business networks that exist in the US that might determine the individual's opportunities and inheritance. No, I envision these transactions taking place on the moon, between hitherto undiscovered moon-men, noble warriors of that desolate, alien land...
tpaine posted:the 9 posters who upvoted that shit should be banned
tpaine it's at 18 upvotes, your hit-list has doubled...
getfiscal posted:that's true roseweird but it doesn't matter. nobody changes through criticism.
"war. war never changes." - fallout boy
havent you people ever heard of, changing the god damn war,
While I agree to a point, I didn't think it was well-argued. Someone like the writer in the op could sidestep it and say: "Maybe so, but all this knowledge and innovation is useless to society unless there's an entrepreneur there to provide something society wants, and a capitalist to recognize and fund the useful innovations. The wealth of knowledge is already out there; if there were less restrictive intellectual property laws, anyone could potentially take advantage of the social cornucopia of knowledge, but most don't, and for that reason they deserve their McJob. By taxing or socializing the profit-makers, you're not really reclaiming what past generations contributed in terms of knowledge because it was only after entrepreneurs were able to do something with the knowledge that it was recognized retroactively as having the value that it does.
Instead of Alperovitz's notion of knowledge inheritance, you have to go back to critiquing the basic injustice of private property, I think, to properly challenge capitalist desert morality.
swirlsofhistory posted:Gar Alperovitz makes similar arguments in Unjust Deserts: that much of today's wealth is the result of an inheritance of knowledge and institutions, and that the creation of new technical knowledge rarely comes from lone geniuses. Therefore a large chunk of the profits earned from the use of this inheritance should belong to society.
While I agree to a point, I didn't think it was well-argued. Someone like the writer in the op could sidestep it and say: "Maybe so, but all this knowledge and innovation is useless to society unless there's an entrepreneur there to provide something society wants, and a capitalist to recognize and fund the useful innovations. The wealth of knowledge is already out there; if there were less restrictive intellectual property laws, anyone could potentially take advantage of the social cornucopia of knowledge, but most don't, and for that reason they deserve their McJob. By taxing or socializing the profit-makers, you're not really reclaiming what past generations contributed in terms of knowledge because it was only after entrepreneurs were able to do something with the knowledge that it was recognized retroactively as having the value that it does.
Instead of Alperovitz's notion of knowledge inheritance, you have to go back to critiquing the basic injustice of private property, I think, to properly challenge capitalist desert morality.
what that something is is not really possible to nail down with any consistency or accuracy though is it
figures you slavic nazi punks
Scrree posted:i wish america had a history of divine nobility so i could at least think 'all is as should be according to the great chain of being' while being a slave instead of 'i can't believe these dumb pricks own me' while being a slave.
The problem with this desire is that it is not marxist and consistently erases class.
if i could find a way
id take back that upvote that hurt you
and youd stay
ilmdge posted:what if tpaine touches a boob and comes back all rowdy like tom did
inshallah
Lykourgos posted:Hmm, that's an interesting article. Does anyone know where the author believes that these rational, profit-minded individuals are making their transactions? I know it's not America, because that would mean that all these transactions take place in a regulated environment, subject to a system of laws created and enforced by large institutions over the individuals, and the transactions would also then take advantage of many public services and infrastructure, not to mention the social and business networks that exist in the US that might determine the individual's opportunities and inheritance. No, I envision these transactions taking place on the moon, between hitherto undiscovered moon-men, noble warriors of that desolate, alien land...
I found a shorter version of your post, feel free to use it in the future
anyway Laoshi also means teacher, hope that helps you in your Chinese refgetting