swampman posted:TG posted:i used to live a few blocks from that place and my dad called me today to say i bet that hits a bit close to home and i didnt have the heart to tell him that i was rooting for the shooters because anyone working in that building is complicit in the coordinated murder of thousands upon thousands of people whose only crime is being born in a country that is strategically relevant to the amurrcan sphere of influence
what these person/people did is not something to root for. the only thing they did is help justify the perpetual state of exception that much more. if it had come out that they had radicalized a bunch of other soldiers and performed a massive act of sabotage, or even if they had picked a high value target, ok, yes root. but so what if this coincides with the indigenous anti-troop position, that shouldnt make it "de facto" (that's latin) praiseworthy to the tribe.
i am just not sure what sort of revolution you see happening with massive amounts of military or police defection to the revolutionary cause. probably the really bad kind of revolution that has lots of warlords and violent repression.
why do you believe americans and especially soldiers are the target audience here? far more likely is the oppressed masses of the third world who don't even get the pleasure of seeing the american military man's face anymore as he blows them up from a drone or the people of syria who wait in silence as Obama hovers his hand on the button which will rain down bombs and faceless death on civilians.
that revolutionary defeatism or mutiny is impossible here shows that America is not revolutionary. also funny to think that all the posts we make are recorded somewhere by the NSA.
Goatstein_Ascendant posted:swampman posted:TG posted:i used to live a few blocks from that place and my dad called me today to say i bet that hits a bit close to home and i didnt have the heart to tell him that i was rooting for the shooters because anyone working in that building is complicit in the coordinated murder of thousands upon thousands of people whose only crime is being born in a country that is strategically relevant to the amurrcan sphere of influence
what these person/people did is not something to root for. the only thing they did is help justify the perpetual state of exception that much more. if it had come out that they had radicalized a bunch of other soldiers and performed a massive act of sabotage, or even if they had picked a high value target, ok, yes root. but so what if this coincides with the indigenous anti-troop position, that shouldnt make it "de facto" (that's latin) praiseworthy to the tribe.
i am just not sure what sort of revolution you see happening with massive amounts of military or police defection to the revolutionary cause. probably the really bad kind of revolution that has lots of warlords and violent repression.Your problem is that you think this is about doing something productive. It isn't. Its about revenge upon the guilty.
wb goatstein
marxism vs neo anarchist terrorism
babyhueypnewton posted:that revolutionary defeatism or mutiny is impossible here shows that America is not revolutionary. also funny to think that all the posts we make are recorded somewhere by the NSA.
does that give you the horn
Goatstein_Ascendant posted:Your problem is that you think this is about doing something productive. It isn't. Its about revenge upon the guilty.
You are not entitled to revenge
babyhueypnewton posted:also funny to think that all the posts we make are recorded somewhere by the NSA.
all the posts we make are available online at www.rhizzone.net
swampman posted:babyhueypnewton posted:also funny to think that all the posts we make are recorded somewhere by the NSA.
all the posts we make are available online at www.rhizzone.net
that is until the mods decide that they never existed. think of all the lost goatstein wisdom the world has been deprived of
tpaine posted:i still don't understand how some of you seem to think there's enough worth or dignity in the average american to justify fighting on their behalf, yes they're victims of things far beyond their control but they're self-defeating unthinking ghouls all the same and would kill for the chance to the be the ones inflicting the same torture on some other lower-runged non-entity. whether they ever had a chance to actually be a decent person is immaterial, we all know what they would have done with that chance
i sure know what I would have done with it
swirlsofhistory posted:At what point does a man decide he can no longer live in this world?
the minute he thinks he has any say on when
this is literally the position of capital and capitalists fwiw. ironically, for all the criticisms of obama and the military, you all see eye to eye ideologically