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swampman need dog talk: how do i get the dog to stop chewing/playing with my shoes? i try the ignoring tactic but unfortunately when i turn my back she just calmly digs right into the shoe, so i'm not sure how to combat this (fighting with her/tugging it away etc just seems to be playing with her and giving her what she wants, so i figure that's probably the opposite of what i should be doing)

also when i get all my shoes away from her she starts going for my bare feet (but at least its in a playful manner and not in a "i want to tear your toes off" manner, but there always seems to be that hint of "you know i could rip your feet off if i wanted to" inherent in her playing)
#602
have you tried breaking out into tears and assuming the fetal position?
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also swampman i see that you have cesar's way on your bookshelf. is this recommended reading? i thought cesar millan was dumb?
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dont you EVER call cesar millan dumb in my presence buddy
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codywilson posted:

swampman need dog talk: how do i get the dog to stop chewing/playing with my shoes? i try the ignoring tactic but unfortunately when i turn my back she just calmly digs right into the shoe, so i'm not sure how to combat this (fighting with her/tugging it away etc just seems to be playing with her and giving her what she wants, so i figure that's probably the opposite of what i should be doing)

also when i get all my shoes away from her she starts going for my bare feet (but at least its in a playful manner and not in a "i want to tear your toes off" manner, but there always seems to be that hint of "you know i could rip your feet off if i wanted to" inherent in her playing)

you have a couple option, my personal favorite is to keep your shoes out of reach and give her something that she likes to chew on as much as or more than shoes. you can also use certain spray products that taste very bad, that provide a pretty direct disincentive to shoe chewing. make sure you only put it on target shoes and target feet in controlled conditions so you don't accidentally get the bad taste on other things.

i will choose to ignore your crack about cesar millan, since i am morally and genetically superior to rural bumpkins like yourself and thus occupy a higher plane of rational thought. maybe if you washed your stinking foot your dog wouldn't mistake it for a delicious old chicken part.

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bonus. dog tip of the week. when dealing with owners walking their dog off-leash, to keep them away, tell them your dog is "contagious." i find that telling them that my dog is "not friendly" or "aggressive," or asking them to please hold onto their dog or leash it or whatever, all of these are rarely effective in getting people to hold onto their dog. but when i tell them my dog is infected they dance to my sinister music like flea ghosts in a haunted flea circus.
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lol swampmans dogs have fail aids
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yeah, once she starts going at them I immediately pick up all my shoes off the floor and then once i get the shoe she has it goes up too. But its difficult to always keep them out of reach, and generally I just kick them off after a day at work.

Also i've been trying to replace the shoes with other things (bought one of those massive raw hide bone-shaped things). I'm kinda tired of spending $5+ on a chew thing for her though when she goes through them in 15 minutes, so i've been trying to give her old random objects I don't like. Although, I think this is encouraging her chewing of anything on the floor (including my shoes).

Last night when she was going for the shoes I kept trying to give her an old piece of dried bamboo instead. At first she went for it, but after splintering into a dozen pieces within 3 minutes she resumed going for the shoes (admittedly I hadn't picked them all up yet). After picking up the shoes she started going for my feet. So I gave her the bamboo wedges. She seemed to take them no problem until I turned my back at which point she ignores anything i give her and resumes going for my feet.

also the washing thing doesn't help. this was of course after i got off work and my feet were unwashed and sweaty. However, she has gone for my feet immediately after i have bathed, so I'm not sure what the big deal is.

and i get what you mean about millan. sometimes it's good to check out other ideas and stuff and "dumb"/"smart" aren't such clear concepts.
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is your dog a herding breed? my pup used to go after the feet and ankles, and sometimes still does when shes really excited
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are pit bulls a herding breed?
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You use what's known as the alpha roll in your training. This is a highly controversial technique among trainers and behaviorists.

What's your response to those who feel it should not be done and that it's harmful to use this technique?

That's their point of view.

It's the difference between going to school and the dogs being your school. One is the intellectual knowledge, the other one is instinctual. I am instinctual.

I'm open to beliefs and I'm open to their knowledge.

They close their minds. They say their way is the only way, and my way is the wrong way. That's not a very good leader.

If you study a pack of dogs, the first authority figure is the mom, and the mom does pin the puppies down. It's an instinctual relationship that I have to establish with them. It's for the benefit of their species.

The reason why I'm able to accomplish what I accomplish is because I am calm-assertive to . So the mother is the first calm-assertive energy they know, then it's the pack leader.

Domination, dominating, and the alpha roll exist, and will exist, until we get rid of the species of dog.
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codywilson posted:

yeah, once she starts going at them I immediately pick up all my shoes off the floor and then once i get the shoe she has it goes up too. But its difficult to always keep them out of reach, and generally I just kick them off after a day at work.

Also i've been trying to replace the shoes with other things (bought one of those massive raw hide bone-shaped things). I'm kinda tired of spending $5+ on a chew thing for her though when she goes through them in 15 minutes, so i've been trying to give her old random objects I don't like. Although, I think this is encouraging her chewing of anything on the floor (including my shoes).

Last night when she was going for the shoes I kept trying to give her an old piece of dried bamboo instead. At first she went for it, but after splintering into a dozen pieces within 3 minutes she resumed going for the shoes (admittedly I hadn't picked them all up yet). After picking up the shoes she started going for my feet. So I gave her the bamboo wedges. She seemed to take them no problem until I turned my back at which point she ignores anything i give her and resumes going for my feet.

also the washing thing doesn't help. this was of course after i got off work and my feet were unwashed and sweaty. However, she has gone for my feet immediately after i have bathed, so I'm not sure what the big deal is.

and i get what you mean about millan. sometimes it's good to check out other ideas and stuff and "dumb"/"smart" aren't such clear concepts.

i dont know what book you're talking about and i dont know who cesar millan is.

i think you should put a crate next to your door for shoes so they can disappear. if you don't want your dog to chew, give her something else to do. buy a laser pointer and tire her out all day. she is going for your feet because she knows it gets your attention and gives her some activity and interaction with you. but you should definitely put a stop to it because her habit will generalize to other people and situations.

enjoy the free fucking advice and go die

#615
having animals or children in your household may mean altering your behavior instead of throwing all your stuff on the floor like a child
#616
if the dog keeps eating your shoes just sell the dog to a meatpacker. what's the loss. oh boo hoo no one eats my bamboo i don't like or whatever the fuck.
#617
no pit bulls are not herders. good luck renting a place in the future, though. or lying about your dog's breed
#618
not hating on pits, my folks have one and shes the sweetest girl. i was just recently looking for a place to rent, and when i said i had a dog, they all asked what breed and were essentially trying to weed out pits and rots.
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swampman posted:

enjoy the free fucking advice and go die


cheques in the mail

#620
generally my response to the feet biting is to take her on a 1/2-3/4 hour walk, but it'd be neat to find some other way to take care of the issue that wouldn't force me to take a break from rhizzoen reading
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sever
#622
kill your dog and eat it
#623
post process on youtube in filthy house, add rotten coconuts to recipe, etc. etc.
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codywilson posted:

generally my response to the feet biting is to take her on a 1/2-3/4 hour walk,

what do you think this has taught your dog?

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swampman posted:

codywilson posted:

generally my response to the feet biting is to take her on a 1/2-3/4 hour walk,

what do you think this has taught your dog?


yeah exactly thats the problem here, i'm trapped in this scenario and needed advice on how to get out

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codywilson posted:

swampman posted:

codywilson posted:

generally my response to the feet biting is to take her on a 1/2-3/4 hour walk,

what do you think this has taught your dog?

yeah exactly thats the problem here, i'm trapped in this scenario and needed advice on how to get out



#635
guys i think the real issue is my hoarding of footwear. maybe i just have too many shoes

like all problems, i blame this one on capitalism.
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tpaine posted:

So let me get this straight. Rhizzoners can't understand why their arthritic dog bites at them when they pick it up, goes after their shoes and feet, and gets excited to play fetch. Just what the fuck kind of retards am i dealing with here? I mean help me.



once my dog started constantly pisseing on the floor i decided "great, now i dont have to let her out anymore", which is really convenient because it means less chances for my cat, who also pisses on the floor, to run outside, and while were at it, why dont i just piss ont he floor too

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https://vine.co/v/b623zdwVuJB
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Superabound posted:

and while were at it, why dont i just piss ont he floor too



lol if you buy into the bourgeois notion of bathrooms

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https://vine.co/v/bEYZdetnbnK