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After reading Bradley Manning's sentence of 35 years for releasing footage of soldiers leisurely committing mass murder against people who were never a threat to them or the United States, along with thousands of documents that resulted in no deaths and no real political change in this country whatsoever (aside from intimidating anyone else in the military who might have a conscience, heh), I thought we should revisit a recent incident of military justice.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/28/us/an-iraqi-massacre-a-light-sentence-and-a-question-of-military-justice.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

Haditha Massacre

The crime:

The 2005 massacre, which came after a roadside bombing of a Marine convoy, killed 24 Iraqis, including women, children and a man in a wheelchair.

The justice:

By the time of the trial last week, charges against six Marines had been dropped, and a seventh Marine had been acquitted in a court martial. After several days of spotty testimony about the last remaining defendant, Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich, 31, who admitted telling his men to “shoot first and ask questions later” after the bombing, the military agreed to a plea deal allowing him to avoid prison time.

Fun facts:

The limited data available suggests that even when the military has tried to prosecute troops for murder or manslaughter in a combat zone, the acquittal rate has been significantly higher than it is in the civilian context.

Over the last 10 years, the Army has court-martialed 43 people on murder or manslaughter charges in cases that occurred in Iraq or Afghanistan and that included both civilian victims and detainees. Twenty-eight were convicted and 15 acquitted.

That acquittal rate is more than twice as high as it is in civilian criminal cases, said Stephen A. Saltzburg, a law professor at George Washington University.

As we can plainly see, letting mass murderers who love each other so much they are willing to die for one another judge each other's crimes has no effect whatsoever on the outcome of a trial. Case dismissed!

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we have to punish lawbreakers because if we don't society will fall apart.
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sup b*tch
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in order to bring members of the military to justice, it is first necessary that they commit a crime
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https://twitter.com/ladygaga/status/370209858600976387
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fantastic replies to that tweet, really makes you think and appreciate the value of our social media
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I don't know about this one... Haven't followed as much as u prob have but if he leaked info that puts us troops in danger.. 👎
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it sounds like hes a gay faget who should die
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I feel so much safer knowing this menace is locked away where ze cannot cause me any more harm or help those who want to do me harm because they hate our society and its pillars of freedom and tolerance
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acephalousuniverse posted:

fantastic replies to that tweet, really makes you think and appreciate the value of our social media



they are, check this out: TWITS

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kiss me where i pee
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Superabound posted:

kiss me where i pee


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i'm sick of these crocodile tears for Manning, as if there was any society in history (outside of some anarchist fantasy) that wouldn't harshly punish someone who betrays state secrets that undermine it's strategic or diplomatic agenda.
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it's breanna manning you heteronormative fuckwhistles. respect hir gender identity
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peepaw posted:

it's breanna manning you heteronormative fuckwhistles. respect hir gender identity



it's Breanna Mynning you cock-hatting hitlerist

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roseweird posted:

Ironicwarcriminal posted:

i'm sick of these crocodile tears for Manning, as if there was any society in history (outside of some anarchist fantasy) that wouldn't harshly punish someone who betrays state secrets that undermine it's strategic or diplomatic agenda.



i am happy he did what he did and am sorry he is suffering for it, regardless of how predictable the government response. he did something good that most of us would like to believe we would be capable of doing in spite of the obvious consequences. he is a sympathetic figure being publicly abused, what reaction do you expect other than sympathy? why do you accept the brutal reaction of the state as obvious and genuine but popular reaction to that brutality as disingenuous?



Then he should be proud of what he did and take it like a man, so to speak.

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"....support what Manning did in exposing these war crimes, but he should have submitted his complaints to the proper military authority instead of releasing leaks. What he did was illegal, and he deserves to be punished for it.

Up next: The War Against Women--why female soldiers must be allowed to report rapes outside the chain of command."
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roseweird posted:

whatever



i suppose the real answer is that i empathize more with people who are suffering from the results of circumstances not of their own making.

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got any good pussy facing tips?
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Just thought I'd interject with another case of military justice served cold and inhuman.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/world/iraq-war-logs.html?_r=0#report/E8DE9B9F-E468-B587-E4B332C09FF48BE2

SUMMARY: This report states that two men believed to have been firing mortars tried to surrender to an Apache helicopter crew. A military lawyer says they are not allowed to surrender to an aircraft. The helicopter fires a missile at the two men, killing them.

I love the smell of military justice in the morning. Smells like... a law made up to justify murdering two unarmed men trying to surrender.

Although you have to give credit to those military lawyers who make up laws on the spot like a self-anointed god-king accountable to no law made by man unto this earth; they've prepared the groundwork for autonomous killing machines before such a thing even exists. If that doesn't say visionary, I don't know what does.
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Bradley Manning says he is now a woman named Chelsea

Bradley Manning, the Army private who was sentenced to 35 years in military prison for giving classified documents to WikiLeaks, told the “Today” show in a statement on Thursday that he wants to live his life as a woman.

The 25-year-old former intelligence analyst said he identifies as female, and has since childhood. His statement said he wants to undergo hormone therapy to help his body transition from male to female — treatment that cannot be provided at Fort Leavenworth, the prison where he is likely to be sent, a spokeswoman for the facility told Courthouse News Service.

“As I transition into this next phase of my life, I want everyone to know the real me,” Manning said in the statement. “I am Chelsea Manning. I am a female. Given the way that I feel, and have felt since childhood, I want to begin hormone therapy as soon as possible.

Manning’s lawyer, David Coombs, said Manning wanted to wait until the trial was over to announce that he would now identify as a woman.

During the trial, there were several instances in which Manning’s gender identity and sexual orientation were mentioned. His defense team suggested his struggles with those issues were part of his decision to leak the information.

In the statement to supporters that was reported by “Today,” Manning thanked everyone who has backed him during his three-year legal ordeal, and said he hoped their encouragement would continue.

“I hope that you will support me in this transition,” the statement said. “I also request that, starting today, you refer to me by my new name and use the feminine pronoun (except in official mail to the confinement facility). I look forward to receiving letters from supporters and having the opportunity to write back.”
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owned, just owned ucmj


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chelsea manning needs and deserves hormone therapy and to be transferred to a women's prison

e: im actually serious wtf

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military justice:



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Ironicwarcriminal posted:

i'm sick of these crocodile tears for Manning, as if there was any society in history



Herstory, you asshat.