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for a lot of those workers all they know about unions is that theyre forced to join them and then get money taken out of their check.
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ilmdge posted:

for a lot of those workers all they know about unions is that theyre forced to join them and then get money taken out of their check.



yeah and in most cases they're right because most unions (maybe all of them?) in the USA have no progressive agenda and have more allegiance to maintaining capital than to labor

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how do you propose radicalizing unions is done, klamsek?

e; wasn't sarcastic or snide question. earnest q
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the only union I know of that's still radical is the ilwu. I'm a teamster and we just passed another shitty new contract with concessions while the company turns record profits
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it won't work

agreed

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“Workers ought not to be exclusively absorbed in these unavoidable guerilla fights incessantly springing up from the never ceasing encroachments of capital or changes of the market. They ought to understand that, with all the miseries it imposes upon them, the present system simultaneously engenders the material conditions and the social forms necessary for an economical reconstruction of society. Instead of the conservative motto, ‘A fair day's wage for a fair day's work!’ they ought to inscribe on their banner the revolutionary watchword, ‘Abolition of the wages system!’” - Carl Marks
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I wonder what % less profits Walmart could make instead? 0.01%?????

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tpaine posted:

i just did 17 hours straight with no breaks

thank you for your contribution to society. work is freedom.

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is that true
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tpaine why dont you get a real job you bum
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if it's any consolation a union is essentially useless in a right-to-work state so you aren't missing out on much!!!
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tpaine posted:

you can get written up for talking about politics. a coworker at one job did nothing but agree with some point a customer offhandedly made and another customer got offended and called the little corporate care number and she got a write up for it. another coworker told me her husband got fired from his job for "talking about" unionizing. at one job the basic entry level position will get you about 18 hours/week on average. at the other you don't get breaks period, you don't clock out for them and you almost never get to have even 2 minute breather. at the other i clock for breaks but wind up having to work through them, even though i could get in trouble for doing so, about 90% of the time. and these are still not that bad comparatively



yeah. when i worked "low wage" shit counter jobs, even in situations where people were a little more free to have casual conversations about whatever, the other people who worked there would talk about how unions are too powerful etc. when they saw things about the teachers strike in the news or whatever. it's p bad and i have a lot of respec for people who try to do it idk

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EmanuelaOrlandi posted:

tpaine why dont you get a real job you bum



Uhm, he has a real job: He's a writer criticizing the US military.

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i can't even type that with a straight face
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AmericanNazbro posted:

i can't even type that with a straight face


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tpaine posted:

AmericanNazbro posted:

i can't even type that with a straight face

sorry about your stroke.




Excuse me, but I'm Bostonian.

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discipline posted:

the best position to radicalize/pressure a union is as a rank and file member. if you seriously want more info we should talk



why not post it here?

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tpaine posted:

i have to say again the idea of even attempting to unionize either place i work at or to even do the bare minimum of trying to instill some kind of leftist, let alone communist feeling, fills me with the same kind of emotions i'd feel if someone said "you should tell everyone you work with that you drink your pee, and it gives you infinite life"



i remember watching an episode of Oprah with my mom back in the mid/late 90s where she had some skin care expert guy on there who said that pressing a babbys fresh urine-soaked diaper onto your face every morning would cure acne. millions of viewers actually tried this

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Superabound posted:

tpaine posted:

i have to say again the idea of even attempting to unionize either place i work at or to even do the bare minimum of trying to instill some kind of leftist, let alone communist feeling, fills me with the same kind of emotions i'd feel if someone said "you should tell everyone you work with that you drink your pee, and it gives you infinite life"

i remember watching an episode of Oprah with my mom back in the mid/late 90s where she had some skin care expert guy on there who said that pressing a babbys fresh urine-soaked diaper onto your face every morning would cure acne. millions of viewers actually tried this

wait who hasn't been doing this daily their whole life?

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ilmdge posted:

for a lot of those workers all they know about unions is that theyre forced to join them and then get money taken out of their check.



serious question, do you know any of the hundreds of workers who have gotten involved in the Fast Food strikes?

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SariBari posted:

ilmdge posted:

for a lot of those workers all they know about unions is that theyre forced to join them and then get money taken out of their check.

serious question, do you know any of the hundreds of workers who have gotten involved in the Fast Food strikes?

i believe tom got "involved," but it was as a picket line breaker

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Tom thinks fast food strikes are when he feels hunger and he makes missile noises while swallowing mostly unchewed fast food fare.
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SariBari posted:

serious question, do you know any of the hundreds of workers who have gotten involved in the Fast Food strikes?

which union are they with