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TRot??? trot on. Christ
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trots are a beautiful culture and, we should respect them
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Trots' Rights Movement

Obama Obama, Trots have Rights too, especially in Turkey, Syria...
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i've been reading post-war central euro lit and the only thing it has done to me is make me wholly unconcerned with the political. what the fUck is going on here. Max Frisch, I kil yoU!
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trots are the worst sort of vermin, parasites, bludgeon them! bludgeon them! communists volunteering as pressure release valves for bourgeois desire. ouch! out, damn spot! out, damn trot!
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impper is the street of the crocodiles any good. i ordered that, a michaux, a houllebecq, some frisch, a whole bunch of lacan bullshit, etc
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it wont be the smoking that kills me. i will be crushed under an avalanche of books in a poignant but ultimately meaningless metaphor
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i fucking finished the unnameable. holy shit. i am literally a fucking god
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deadken posted:
i fucking finished the unnameable. holy shit. i am literally a fucking god



im almost done with molloy. you owe us a thread

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ya ima get to work on it when im done with finals
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deadken posted:
impper is the street of the crocodiles any good. i ordered that, a michaux, a houllebecq, some frisch, a whole bunch of lacan bullshit, etc


donno, i read the first 2 pages in an apparently 162 page book and the writing is overdone and corny as hell, not exactly bad but pointlessly imagistic and plodding (imo)

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deadken posted:
it wont be the smoking that kills me. i will be crushed under an avalanche of books in a poignant but ultimately meaningless metaphor


i dumped all my books out of the trash bags they were residing in today and i was like "damn, damn, i have the best library ever. god damn son"

still need to stop reading postwar wankers even if they're good and literary. who needs literary writing??

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i was skimmin over steppenwolf again the other day and i was struck by how deleuzian it is, the individual-as-crowd, the hall of mirror-desires, like a lot of that is from nietzsche which both of them borrowed shitloads from but its still p arresting
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yea its awesome as hell to know a thing or two about nietzsche. celine occasionally drops nietzsche references in his later books and you're just like "wait, nothing you do at all is anything like nietzsche, you're the opposite of that guy, why are you even saying his name?"
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deadken posted:
i was skimmin over steppenwolf again the other day and i was struck by how deleuzian it is, the individual-as-crowd, the hall of mirror-desires, like a lot of that is from nietzsche which both of them borrowed shitloads from but its still p arresting


also the "You will have all the girls" chapter is still possibly one of the best sequences of all time. IMHO

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Impper posted:
still need to stop reading postwar wankers even if they're good and literary. who needs literary writing??



lol yeah im starting to think that my literature thing is kinda verging on nerd obsession, its just not approachable by most of the population not because theyre stupid but because theyve got better things to care about....... like i was reading the unnameable and someone asked me what it was about and there is literally no answer to that question

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Impper posted:
yea its awesome as hell to know a thing or two about nietzsche. celine occasionally drops nietzsche references in his later books and you're just like "wait, nothing you do at all is anything like nietzsche, you're the opposite of that guy, why are you even saying his name?"



nietzsche owns precisely because you can disagree with him on every point but still love his power and vehemence, celine and nietzsche have nothing in common in terms of their actual thought but they got the same spunk & piss & fury

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deadken posted:
Impper posted:
still need to stop reading postwar wankers even if they're good and literary. who needs literary writing??


lol yeah im starting to think that my literature thing is kinda verging on nerd obsession, its just not approachable by most of the population not because theyre stupid but because theyve got better things to care about....... like i was reading the unnameable and someone asked me what it was about and there is literally no answer to that question

All Great Lovers Are Fascists.


it is exactly a nerd obsession. occasionally you meet somebody who actually comprehends and cares about all the shit you're reading and you basically fall in love with them. bursting at the seams to share a little bit of that esoteric knowledge... not a good position

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deadken posted:

Impper posted:
still need to stop reading postwar wankers even if they're good and literary. who needs literary writing??

lol yeah im starting to think that my literature thing is kinda verging on nerd obsession, its just not approachable by most of the population not because theyre stupid but because theyve got better things to care about....... like i was reading the unnameable and someone asked me what it was about and there is literally no answer to that question



that happened to me with molloy. It is a problem.

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I just don't know why I'd want to read a book written by someone under 30. People say writing all the time is what matters, and that you get better, but the truth is you just get older and wiser through experience.

Writing is a particularly classical medium which suggests age, seriousness and character. Have you considered animation?
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deadken posted:
Impper posted:
yea its awesome as hell to know a thing or two about nietzsche. celine occasionally drops nietzsche references in his later books and you're just like "wait, nothing you do at all is anything like nietzsche, you're the opposite of that guy, why are you even saying his name?"


nietzsche owns precisely because you can disagree with him on every point but still love his power and vehemence, celine and nietzsche have nothing in common in terms of their actual thought but they got the same spunk & piss & fury

All Great Lovers Are Fascists.


ahe yeh, and where nietzsche dedicates his spunk to pointless self-immolation and self-aggrandizement, celine dedicates his fury to pointless self-preservation and self-deprecation. couldn't find two people further apart

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Impper posted:

deadken posted:
i was skimmin over steppenwolf again the other day and i was struck by how deleuzian it is, the individual-as-crowd, the hall of mirror-desires, like a lot of that is from nietzsche which both of them borrowed shitloads from but its still p arresting

also the "You will have all the girls" chapter is still possibly one of the best sequences of all time. IMHO



apparently sensitive literary types in the interwar years looked up to harry haller as an embodiment of their aspirations when hesse makes it very clear that he's a myopic idiot lol

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christmas_cheer posted:
I just don't know why I'd want to read a book written by someone under 30. People say writing all the time is what matters, and that you get better, but the truth is you just get older and wiser through experience.

Writing is a particularly classical medium which suggests age, seriousness and character. Have you considered animation?



its not like you can just wait it out and then start writing once youre in your writing prime. you have to put in your hours

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deadken posted:
apparently sensitive literary types in the interwar years looked up to harry haller as an embodiment of their aspirations when hesse makes it very clear that he's a myopic idiot lol

All Great Lovers Are Fascists.


ahaha yeah, well, in any case it was the sensitive literary types who lent all their cultural capital to the fascists, only to be (rightly) disgusted by the time their opinions didn't matter a damn anymore. sensitive literary types are the biggest idiots on the planet and will be for all time. that includes myself, i dont know if you want to join the ride

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babyfinland posted:
christmas_cheer posted:
I just don't know why I'd want to read a book written by someone under 30. People say writing all the time is what matters, and that you get better, but the truth is you just get older and wiser through experience.

Writing is a particularly classical medium which suggests age, seriousness and character. Have you considered animation?


its not like you can just wait it out and then start writing once youre in your writing prime. you have to put in your hours

certum est quia impossibile


i think this is true, but then at the same time a 36 year old will never write the same book that a 22 or even a 27 year old would. most young writers will condemn their work as soon as they mature but that doesn't negate what had earlier been said; it would be worrying if a writer fully endorsed all of his early work at a late age

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im not letting my hypothetical children read books. they will play sports like normal people
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tpaine posted:

ssss ome boring bookkk shittttt


Watch this then, brand new.

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tpaine posted:
ssss ome boring bookkk shittttt



yeah im glad were discussing irrelevant esoterica now instead of trots and gays

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deadken posted:
im not letting my hypothetical children read books. they will play sports like normal people


if i wasn't gainfully employed literally 100% of my time would be dedicated to sport and literature. a warrior-poet for the time (i.e. impotent, inadequate, and foolish)

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deadken posted:

Impper posted:
still need to stop reading postwar wankers even if they're good and literary. who needs literary writing??

lol yeah im starting to think that my literature thing is kinda verging on nerd obsession, its just not approachable by most of the population not because theyre stupid but because theyve got better things to care about....... like i was reading the unnameable and someone asked me what it was about and there is literally no answer to that question



difference is that lit nerds get an entire masturbatory institution that justifies our pursuit and allows for arguments of pretension that become so heated they furiously bubble our lake of bullshit all the way up the highest ivory towers filled expensive mahogany wood all constructed from grants better spent feeding the mouths of starving illiterate children

it owns

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how do i get these mythical grants you speak of, aerdil? i need a grant for my "writing"
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aerdil posted:

deadken posted:

Impper posted:
still need to stop reading postwar wankers even if they're good and literary. who needs literary writing??

lol yeah im starting to think that my literature thing is kinda verging on nerd obsession, its just not approachable by most of the population not because theyre stupid but because theyve got better things to care about....... like i was reading the unnameable and someone asked me what it was about and there is literally no answer to that question

difference is that lit nerds get an entire masturbatory institution that justifies our pursuit and allows for arguments of pretension that become so heated they furiously bubble our lake of bullshit all the way up the highest ivory towers filled expensive mahogany wood all constructed from grants better spent feeding the mouths of starving illiterate children

it owns



lol yeah, and also normal people think youre clever if you know a lot about literature and a freak if you know a lot about trains + girls will come up to you and ask what youre reading, i def picked the right nerd obsession