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it makes sense...
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After reading this thread and the nationalism thread I realize rhizzone is the only fascist forum in the entire world. Anti-capitalist, anti-rationalist, more Hegelian than Marxist, we're bringing back Gentile, Schmitt, Sorel, Evola who have been lost in the liberal slander of fascism and communism as the same thing. I respect fascism as a serious ideology that must be fought by genuine Marxists at a theoretical level instead of stupid shit like street gangs beating each other up or calling everyone a fascist. Much more interesting than debating liberalism which is mostly incoherent or "conservativism" which is doesn't even pretend to be coherent.
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idgi, am i on the same side of the debate as bhpn ??

woah. we're through the looking glass here ppl.
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Maybe. I do agree that enlightenment liberals abandoned Christianity so they could be even more Christian and the "new-atheist" movement is basically that. However I do think any appeals to the anti-rationalist tendencies of the masses and the power of idealism (which is quite powerful and tempting) can only protect capitalism and not eliminate it. I do agree that most atheists have a fetishized view of "science" , often have a religious devotion to freedom and other ideals that replace God, and have a very poor understanding of religion beyond what the bible says which is the least important aspect of religion. I dunno though the OWS is almost a fascist movement (populist, nationalistic and anti-rationalist) and it's been interesting to watch. Anarchism and fascism have always been very close in my mind and that seems to be what works in the 1st world.
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but if the church blocks were dismantled and used as state blocks, the conflict between infra- and super- structure may trap the free individuals in structural gridlock. i don't wanna be buried in a pet cemetery, oh no...
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babyhueypnewton posted:
Maybe. I do agree that enlightenment liberals abandoned Christianity so they could be even more Christian and the "new-atheist" movement is basically that. However I do think any appeals to the anti-rationalist tendencies of the masses and the power of idealism (which is quite powerful and tempting) can only protect capitalism and not eliminate it. I do agree that most atheists have a fetishized view of "science" , often have a religious devotion to freedom and other ideals that replace God, and have a very poor understanding of religion beyond what the bible says which is the least important aspect of religion. I dunno though the OWS is almost a fascist movement (populist, nationalistic and anti-rationalist) and it's been interesting to watch. Anarchism and fascism have always been very close in my mind and that seems to be what works in the 1st world.



franklin and frankenstein read the bible through bifocals? what revisionism!

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Atheism is religion. Anarchism is fascism. Science is faith. War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.
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i'd say each is but a slice of the pie, which encompasses time-region -based variable lunar magnetism in accordance with the venison diagram.
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babyhueypnewton posted:
Maybe. I do agree that enlightenment liberals abandoned Christianity so they could be even more Christian and the "new-atheist" movement is basically that. However I do think any appeals to the anti-rationalist tendencies of the masses and the power of idealism (which is quite powerful and tempting) can only protect capitalism and not eliminate it. I do agree that most atheists have a fetishized view of "science" , often have a religious devotion to freedom and other ideals that replace God, and have a very poor understanding of religion beyond what the bible says which is the least important aspect of religion. I dunno though the OWS is almost a fascist movement (populist, nationalistic and anti-rationalist) and it's been interesting to watch. Anarchism and fascism have always been very close in my mind and that seems to be what works in the 1st world.



these are not rationalist articles of belief

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BehemothTheKatte posted:
well at least our arbitrary subjectivism does not rely on a narrow interpetation of certain etchnocentric cultural traditions. if atheism is a religion it truly is a universal one allowing for an immense variety in practice while encouraging personal judgement and appealing to each individual's sense of morality.



an extremely stupid post. pretty much 100% dumb as fuck. you don't have any idea what you're talking about apparently

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babyhueypnewton posted:
After reading this thread and the nationalism thread I realize rhizzone is the only fascist forum in the entire world. Anti-capitalist, anti-rationalist, more Hegelian than Marxist, we're bringing back Gentile, Schmitt, Sorel, Evola who have been lost in the liberal slander of fascism and communism as the same thing. I respect fascism as a serious ideology that must be fought by genuine Marxists at a theoretical level instead of stupid shit like street gangs beating each other up or calling everyone a fascist. Much more interesting than debating liberalism which is mostly incoherent or "conservativism" which is doesn't even pretend to be coherent.



sorel, schmitt and evola were all anti-fascist

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lol i can explain in english or hebrew the logic of atheism to any person from any cultural background and they will understand it. lol good luck bringing islam to an asian person HAHAHA

- Ev_el_jeff_kay, a really smart astute dude
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nice bigotry

עברי דבר עברית
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godlessness is a natural state. my dogs are atheist.
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lol did you really just try to turn me mentioning in a post hat you speak hebrew into a bigotry accusation. seeeeendo guelebicho.
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err yes why not sure
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i also ask that you heathens refer to it as the godtongue
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besides, i never said that atheism was 'ez to explain' so i don't know why you are so stupid about it. mabbe cause you are a religion and are offended.
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BehemothTheKatte posted:
besides, i never said that atheism was 'ez to explain' so i don't know why you are so stupid about it. mabbe cause you are a religion and are offended.



why isnt it easy to explain if its the default state

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i know you said something about hebrew in hebrew but i dont know any more than that. i assumed it was tied in w/ the first part of the post.
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oh so i guess scientific reality must be obvious that's why people thought rotten food gave birth to flies

God Tom sometimes I just you know

Somtimes!
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DRUXXX posted:
i know you said something about hebrew in hebrew but i dont know any more than that. i assumed it was tied in w/ the first part of the post.



hehe, I jsut said "hebrew! speak hebrew!" which is a zionist slogan from the turn of the century. Ivri Daber Ivrit

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BehemothTheKatte posted:
oh so i guess scientific reality must be obvious that's why people thought rotten food gave birth to flies

God Tom sometimes I just you know

Somtimes!



if atheism is the natural state then yeah by definition it is obvious

also "scientific reality" lol

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oh my yes I guess rotten food really is the mother of flies and rats

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the scientific reality of the situation is that my nose is leaking green mucus all over everything. it's seeping into the innards of my laptop as it falls off my snot-smeared fingers while they tap on the button for every letter that i type
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from where i'm standing it appears as though the universe revolves around me, so it must be true cause it's OBVIOUS

*throws hands in to the air*
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BehemothTheKatte posted:
from where i'm standing it appears as though the universe revolves around me, so it must be true cause it's OBVIOUS

*throws hands in to the air*



yeah, we know, youre an atheist

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no i was just chosen by the creator of the universe
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from where i stand it seems like allah has wrought all that is, and to him i aught give thanks.
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ya'll should read some Richard Dawkins.
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DRUXXX posted:
from where i stand it seems like allah has wrought all that is, and to him i aught give thanks.



so why can't you explain that to the jews

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hey ya'll whatcha up to i'm a little bored here in wanna go bash some apostates

/absolute morality
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BehemothTheKatte posted:
oh my yes I guess rotten food really is the mother of flies and rats



spontaneously generated, then canned at a farternity by a man in a brick shithouse downtown.

"oh hi, peaches? oh, sure one moment..."

its for youFAAAAARTZ*



because shit should be covered in lime under so many kingfingers of dirt, or the porchflies and foodflies might mingle...

riiiiight.

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Groulxsmith posted:
my ex girlfriend describes herself on facebook as being proudly unemotional and says she is a lot like spock. put that way it makes her sound a lot like zinnia jones



zinnia jones is a bronie

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babyhueypnewton posted:
Maybe. I do agree that enlightenment liberals abandoned Christianity so they could be even more Christian and the "new-atheist" movement is basically that.



lmao

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babyfinland posted:

BehemothTheKatte posted:
oh so i guess scientific reality must be obvious that's why people thought rotten food gave birth to flies

God Tom sometimes I just you know

Somtimes!

if atheism is the natural state then yeah by definition it is obvious

also "scientific reality" lol



the natural state of the world is that the earth revolves around the sun yet it was not obvious that this was the case

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babyfinland posted:

BehemothTheKatte posted:

deadken posted:
BehemothTheKatte posted:
nope it's really simply.

if you value piety above all else you will start interjecting the decrees of your mythological thinking upon physical reality which might cause difficulties down the road.


interjecting mythological thinking on physical reality is all human beings have been doing since we first worked out how to daub pigment onto rocks to look like animals. Welcome To The Desert Of The Symbolic

yes and what "we" call "progress" is moving past our subjectiveness and accepting common terms for human interaction based on the Universal Experience, i.e through Empiricism and Positivism.

No one is as hopeful and full of faith as the self professed Positivist.

empiricism and positivism are immense failures lol

also theyre responsible for the holocaust just sayin



empiricism is the basis behind every advance in thinking or technology, ie most of the total ever, in the last three centuries.

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gruntstein posted:
the natural state of the world is that the earth revolves around the sun yet it was not obvious that this was the case



gee thanks Goaty it's not like i made that VERY SAME reference

like the thread is three pages long!

this is a serious forum for discussing serious topics, please make the minimal effort to catch up ont he thread or face the BANHMMER.

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gruntstein posted:
empiricism is the basis behind every advance in thinking or technology, ie most of the total ever, in the last three centuries.



tangentified, socialized expressed thought is assembly code for antiques which might only suck or blow in a quality governed by modular preset.