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now that i'm selling out (again) i need business books to read. i don't want books about how steve jobs dangled his testicles over the face of the american consumer or some shit. give me semi-intelligent books that will turn my business from good to great and empower me as an investor.
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http://www.swarthmore.edu/SocSci/rbannis1/AIH19th/Carnegie.html
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i think the thing to do is to get yourself into the state of mind that you are able to read bestselling books by people that claim to be the ten laws of succeeding in business or whatever and use them to convince yourself that your successful decisions conform to those laws and your unsuccessful ones do not

i suggest uppers and spending a lot of time hanging out with assholes
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seriously though "business" is a really broad category. do you have anything specific in mind (finance, accounting, supply chain, etc. etc.)? knowing what aspect of business you wanna learn about will help narrow things down a lot.
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I suggest Capital, by Karl Marx, OP. He really understands the ins and outs of how businesses work.
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what business is your business in getfrisky
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marxian consulting
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the one where the dollars flow into his wallet because he has ideas
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innsmouthful posted:

seriously though "business" is a really broad category. do you have anything specific in mind (finance, accounting, supply chain, etc. etc.)? knowing what aspect of business you wanna learn about will help narrow things down a lot.

i think i'd be most interested in finance, as related to broader strategy and business analysis. but i'm a beginner, so even standard management books would probably help.

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cleanhands posted:

what business is your business in getfrisky

i am unemployed, aka, my full time job is finding a full time job!

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mein kampf
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getfiscal posted:

cleanhands posted:

what business is your business in getfrisky

i am unemployed, aka, my full time job is finding a full time job!

being unemployed is not a job. please get a job

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i want to get qualified so i can start my own practice and just read business books all the time instead of knowing my trade and letting my work speak for itself
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Have you considered Gonzo Marketing by Some Twat?
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getfiscal posted:

i think i'd be most interested in finance, as related to broader strategy and business analysis. but i'm a beginner, so even standard management books would probably help.



hmmm well i'm taking an intro finance class this fall at a large, well-known and pretty good state university and the finance book they use is called fundamentals of corporate finance by berk. it might be a good bet for you. get a library copy cause obviously that shit is extremely expensive.

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also what have you already done in school?
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innsmouthful posted:

hmmm well i'm taking an intro finance class this fall at a large, well-known and pretty good state university and the finance book they use is called fundamentals of corporate finance by berk. it might be a good bet for you. get a library copy cause obviously that shit is extremely expensive.

i might just get a somewhat recent copy (2009) because those sell for like $5 each. thanks.

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http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00AIZ3T1E/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00AIZ3T1E&linkCode=as2&tag=natdee-20
try this.
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The Art of War by Sun Tzu
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innsmouthful posted:

also what have you already done in school?

i have a BA in economics, so not much business-wise, but stuff that probably crosses over with some brushing up (like for finance and business econ). i have a few human resource management courses too but other than that not much. i'm thinking about taking some business courses but i'm going to meet with a few career advisors and shit first because i don't want to take things that end up useless.

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getfiscal posted:

i have a BA in economics, so not much business-wise, but stuff that probably crosses over with some brushing up (like for finance and business econ). i have a few human resource management courses too but other than that not much. i'm thinking about taking some business courses but i'm going to meet with a few career advisors and shit first because i don't want to take things that end up useless.



in that case i recommend "Mein Kampf" by Adolf HItler

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jools posted:

The Art of War by Sun Tzu

ah... the secrets of the orient

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start a blogging business, if you can
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i remember coming across agile/lean/scrum thru this guy last year (which is a bit unusual cos he;s applying software techniques to a manufacturing context... in the talk i watched he gave a history/evolution of these techniques which i found helpful)




afai kno agile is the trendy business paradigm right now; id def be interested to know what you think of it
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getfiscal posted:

i have a BA in economics, so not much business-wise, but stuff that probably crosses over with some brushing up (like for finance and business econ). i have a few human resource management courses too but other than that not much. i'm thinking about taking some business courses but i'm going to meet with a few career advisors and shit first because i don't want to take things that end up useless.



good plan. don't underestimate that economics degree though, it seems to be the one social science degree that business people take seriously. if you can tie that in with a little rudimentary knowledge of other business concepts you should be fine.

also, i know this is probably trite, but don't underestimate the value of knowing people. see who your family knows and abuse the fuck out of those connections. i cannot state enough how important this is.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzyWEXmyqMA
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innsmouthful posted:

good plan. don't underestimate that economics degree though, it seems to be the one social science degree that business people take seriously. if you can tie that in with a little rudimentary knowledge of other business concepts you should be fine.

also, i know this is probably trite, but don't underestimate the value of knowing people. see who your family knows and abuse the fuck out of those connections. i cannot state enough how important this is.

thank you. *gives business salute*

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getfiscal posted:

innsmouthful posted:

good plan. don't underestimate that economics degree though, it seems to be the one social science degree that business people take seriously. if you can tie that in with a little rudimentary knowledge of other business concepts you should be fine.

also, i know this is probably trite, but don't underestimate the value of knowing people. see who your family knows and abuse the fuck out of those connections. i cannot state enough how important this is.

thank you. *gives business salute*


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getfiscal posted:

innsmouthful posted:

also what have you already done in school?

i have a BA in economics,



talk to faculty in your program about consulting jobs

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seriously people in business without econ degrees think econ degrees demonstrate wizard powers
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true facts: i have a consulting job in a field where i have little knowledge of the technical aspects, and was hired out of an internship in another area of business, in another office, in another part of the country, ask me about how to live in fear of being discovered
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jools posted:

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hrm. i like what i'm hearing... maybe i should go further with economics? like get a masters or something? then wheel around into a business thing? it'd be tough because i'd have to cram a lot of math into my brain... but... i'm used to cramming things into my head for money.
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maybe i should take mathematics at mcgill and a few econ courses and go get a masters in economics... for the win?
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xipe posted:

i remember coming across agile/lean/scrum thru this guy last year (which is a bit unusual cos he;s applying software techniques to a manufacturing context... in the talk i watched he gave a history/evolution of these techniques which i found helpful)




afai kno agile is the trendy business paradigm right now; id def be interested to know what you think of it



scrum/story points/etc are getting toward their end of life as the dominant buzzword trend

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getfiscal posted:

maybe i should take mathematics at mcgill and a few econ courses and go get a masters in economics... for the win?


Epic yes. Econ degrees are awesome, career-wise, and Canada has some of the best MA econ programs in the world, way way better than the US. Don't be deceived by big name US schools like NYU--their masters programs are taught by different faculty and have no relation to their real econ departments.

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getfiscal posted:

hrm. i like what i'm hearing... maybe i should go further with economics? like get a masters or something? then wheel around into a business thing? it'd be tough because i'd have to cram a lot of math into my brain... but... i'm used to cramming things into my head for money.

if you can get an econ masters or something similar before western capitalism folds in on itself you pretty much have it made until everything falls apart. daddyholes is correct, it's like a wizard's hat

for example at my company, a Global Systemically Important Financial Institution (that's a thing, apparently), economists are paid to concentrate on an area (a region, a sector, a country, The World, whatever) and come up with short analysis/research papers that basically boil down to "well, this is happening, so that will probably also happen, i guess". good writing skills and the ability to engage readers are probably more important than actual math chops (you can always get some other guy to help you with that anyway, you just need a graph that goes up).

you can work for NGOs, Think Tanks (tm), governmental agencies, whatever. everyone loves wizards. it seems pretty much right up your alley, combine it with some social analysis and good writing and it'll basically just be like posting

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and if that doesn't work out you can always for work some private corporate intelligence like Stratfor, they do the same thing with less math.
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Aspie_Muslim_Economist_ posted:

Epic yes. Econ degrees are awesome, career-wise, and Canada has some of the best MA econ programs in the world, way way better than the US. Don't be deceived by big name US schools like NYU--their masters programs are taught by different faculty and have no relation to their real econ departments.

i love economics but i worry it would be a long road back without much to show for it in the interim. because my BA, while from a good econ school (Queen's), was a medial (like a joint honours rather than straight specialization honours), and my marks were bad because of illness. i'd have to take senior level theory courses to demonstrate that i could hack it and take stuff like linear algebra which i never did, and redo courses in mathematical economics and take econometrics (never did). i have to worry about funding too so i need to be in a formal program, like second BA in math + finance (2 or 3 years) or something, not just retaking econ courses. if i did that i could look into finance masters or econ/finance masters too or something.