and, being an adult, i recognize that "being triggered" or as i personally describe it, "freaking out", is a symptom of my disease, and a purely internal phenomenon whose existence is no ones responsibility but my own
generalized anxiety disorder is after all, at the end of the day nothing more than a form of privilege, and almost exclusively the product of relatively safe and sedentary First World lifestyles
SariBari posted:HenryKrinkle posted:
SariBari posted:
tpaine, two women were assaulted and driven out of a conference this weekend by "transactivists". these people like to dox women and assault them in public leave this to the vagina havers/wanna be vagina-havers.
magic markers... damn those transppl clearly have no decency.
i like that people keep trying to reduce it to markers and throwing food at people but when it the last time you saw organizers of a conference think it appropriate to disagree with someone's ideas by approaching their table and screaming them, trying to have them ejected, and then defacing their materials? why do you think the intimidation of these women is so funny given that their organization was allowed by the organizers in the first place?
I read an account from a radfem site and it kinda deflated the excitement to be honest: throwing burritos and drawing on shit with magic marker was something that happened every day at school and we didn't call the cops or make it out to be a big assault.
Don't get me wrong, this is a complex issue, but i can't get angry about that
roseweird posted:well, that's you, struggling with your disorder in isolation. this was at a feminist event, and part of feminist organizing is about being supportive and aware of other people's anxieties, especially when people organize around common problems that produce common anxieties. it's not always appropriate (in most contexts people will just say "what? triggered? what does that mean?"), but this is a communication written by and for feminists. i don't think you should lash out at this wording because of your generalized anxiety disorder diagnosis superabound
none of that sounds very communist imho
roseweird posted:idk, the current one, sad injured dog who must be restrained from slobbering on self seems accurate to me, but did you have any thoughts?
that cone is so i dont rip out my stitches, person whos obviously never cared for a sick or injured animal before
roseweird posted:neither does lecturing activists over word choice because of the dx number your therapist chooses to send to your insurance
lol ive never had insurance. not everyone here grew up the child of wealthy jewish liberal upper east coast authors
getfiscal posted:superabound if you want me to change "maneaterfesto"'s avatar to something men's rights oriented then i'm afraid i don't have that power... liberals.....
i think everyone should be able to change anyones avatar but their own
for ultimately we are not who we perceive ourselves to be, but rather who we are perceived to be by others
Ironicwarcriminal posted:SariBari posted:
HenryKrinkle posted:
SariBari posted:
tpaine, two women were assaulted and driven out of a conference this weekend by "transactivists". these people like to dox women and assault them in public leave this to the vagina havers/wanna be vagina-havers.
magic markers... damn those transppl clearly have no decency.
i like that people keep trying to reduce it to markers and throwing food at people but when it the last time you saw organizers of a conference think it appropriate to disagree with someone's ideas by approaching their table and screaming them, trying to have them ejected, and then defacing their materials? why do you think the intimidation of these women is so funny given that their organization was allowed by the organizers in the first place?
I read an account from a radfem site and it kinda deflated the excitement to be honest: throwing burritos and drawing on shit with magic marker was something that happened every day at school and we didn't call the cops or make it out to be a big assault.
Don't get me wrong, this is a complex issue, but i can't get angry about that
SariBari: I understand there are many important issues of violence surrounding this discussion and feminism more broadly in general: I just think that blowing up a book fair kerfuffle into this Big Thing is counterproductive. Like I said: At school, the Indian and the white kids in grade 7 used to play ‘race war’ where we’d grab all the guavas off the tree and divide into opposing camps and peg them each other. I have a lot of empathy with Pakistani muslims because I too copped a number of hits on the noggin from an enthused Hindu communalist. Likewise: in class we played the ‘unwitting nazi’ game: while your friend (or foe) was distracted you’d have to draw a giant swastika on his exercise book and the aim of the game was for the victim to notice and rectify it (usually by extending the arms to make a window) before the teacher came around and they were punished/spoken to/kicked out of class.
This was at literally the second best selective (magnet?) public schools in Sydney. And it happened every day, so I just can’t get too enraged about what is, like I said, a once-off kerfuffle at a book store.
roseweird posted:i don't get it
bird is slang for "girl", or "woman", and as for the branch, well *dons fake German accent* you see ze branch, eet is *ahem* ze branch ist das *clears throat* ZE BRANCHEN EET IST ZE--hold on ill get it-- ze phallic Nature of ze Object ist....
Ironicwarcriminal posted:Ironicwarcriminal posted:
SariBari posted:
HenryKrinkle posted:
SariBari posted:
tpaine, two women were assaulted and driven out of a conference this weekend by "transactivists". these people like to dox women and assault them in public leave this to the vagina havers/wanna be vagina-havers.
magic markers... damn those transppl clearly have no decency.
i like that people keep trying to reduce it to markers and throwing food at people but when it the last time you saw organizers of a conference think it appropriate to disagree with someone's ideas by approaching their table and screaming them, trying to have them ejected, and then defacing their materials? why do you think the intimidation of these women is so funny given that their organization was allowed by the organizers in the first place?
I read an account from a radfem site and it kinda deflated the excitement to be honest: throwing burritos and drawing on shit with magic marker was something that happened every day at school and we didn't call the cops or make it out to be a big assault.
Don't get me wrong, this is a complex issue, but i can't get angry about that
SariBari: I understand there are many important issues of violence surrounding this discussion and feminism more broadly in general: I just think that blowing up a book fair kerfuffle into this Big Thing is counterproductive. Like I said: At school, the Indian and the white kids in grade 7 used to play ‘race war’ where we’d grab all the guavas off the tree and divide into opposing camps and peg them each other. I have a lot of empathy with Pakistani muslims because I too copped a number of hits on the noggin from an enthused Hindu communalist. Likewise: in class we played the ‘unwitting nazi’ game: while your friend (or foe) was distracted you’d have to draw a giant swastika on his exercise book and the aim of the game was for the victim to notice and rectify it (usually by extending the arms to make a window) before the teacher came around and they were punished/spoken to/kicked out of class.
This was at literally the second best selective (magnet?) public schools in Sydney. And it happened every day, so I just can’t get too enraged about what is, like I said, a once-off kerfuffle at a book store.
d'aw i'm getting misty-eyed.....Those halcyon pre 9/11 days when Len ruled the airwaves, summers lasted forever and we would spend lunchtime smoking hashpipes and drinking energy drinks behind the Caltex on West St……
roseweird posted:iwc i disagree with the point you are using it to make but that is quite a story man
One of the dudes I played cricket with went to Pakistan and when he came back was arrested by counterterrorist federal police and charged with training with little known Pakistani group Lashkar-e-Toiba. He got off partially thanks to a glowing reference from my doddery old school principal and two years later they did the Mumbai massacre lol.
Strange school
roseweird posted:oh i see you are making a trans joke, alas i was operated on, if there had been a wood chipper or maybe some whittling involved i would have understood this branch metaphor better
sorry, transphobia is way out of this gimmicks wheelhouse
Don’t feel bad for Kwame though: within 4 month he’d lost his lilting, educated West African accent and was wearing FUBU and hooking up with all the pretty private school girls.
*they became good friends pretty much instantly
Agnus_Dei posted:Monogamy is not absent in the Bible. Matthew 19 clearly advocates monogamy. Adam and Eve were monogamous, Noah and his wife were monogamous, Abraham and Sarah were monogamous, Isaac and Rebekah, Moses married only once, David and his wife were monogamous (although he once engaged in an extramarital affair, but it was viewed as a sin). Solomon had many wives and it was viewed as sinful. Much of the polygamy in Genesis (such as Jacob/Israel's) was a cause of strife. The Holy Family was monogamous, Paul and Peter both wrote in support of it.
Yeah sorry I didn't mean it doesn't occur but it is notable how little it comes up in the NT and I definitely don't think any part of the bible is clear about outlawing it. Polygyny was acceptable in the levant during Jesus's time and is still practiced by Jews today who live or married in Muslim nations, in fact even Ashkenazi jews could theoretically take multiple wives with Rabbinical approval.
My evidence that it is unclear is that many biblical scholars have found it hard to justify a ban solely with biblical evidence. For example Martin Luther felt the bible alone could not justify a ban, and even the Mormon churches polygyny suggest many readers do not take it as self evidently banned. Certainly the average lay reader is going to struggle to correctly interpret passages like 1 Timothy used to justify the ban.
Put in the context of Roman culture it suddenly makes sense that early christians would aggressively denounce polygyny without much biblical support. It was already accepted as a given by most Romans that polygyny, and through their preexisting assumptions of what was right and wrong the ban was able to infiltrate christian tradition, regardless of how Jesus or the apostles really felt.
Of course none of this evidence should matter to you as a catholic, but as a Protestant I find this issue important. Polygyny is still common in many African cultures and I don't feel they can be said to live in sin so long as they are faithful to their vows.
